Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak

[Brad_Olwin]

@łukasz-szmigiel said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

@isazi is it mineral glass or plastic? How about readability compared to original S5?

I have not scratched the S5P screen but I typically don’t scratch my watch screens. The S5P IMHO is much easier to read than the old 5.

[Brad_Olwin]

@shrek3k The S9nonbaro has a compass but the S5Peak does not. Therefore your watch has FusedTrack but the S5P does not. If you use extended GPS modes you will have better tracks with the 9nonbaro than the S5P.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@brad_olwin said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

(…) If you use extended GPS modes you will have better tracks with the 9nonbaro than the S5P.

While running or trail running only. Apart from those two modes, FusedTrack won’t kick in.

And you won’t see my favourite notification stealing the focus on the navigation screen. Because there’s a compass, apparently.

[MiniForklift]

@chrisa said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

Besides Suunto I prefer Polar - the Grit X Pro seems really nice but also comes with a 500€ Price tag…

I bought the Grit X Pro recently and tried to do an unbiased and comprehensive review of how it fared against the S9B:

S9B Vs Polar Grit X Pro

It’s great in some aspects but I’d definitely urge you to check it out and try before you buy

[ChrisA]

@miniforklift thanks - read it, great informations thanks! Mentioning it was more as a hint for @Tomas5 who was looking for a watch, which I think the GXP could be a match (at least better than a Garmin).

[tomkys]

@tomas5 All points totally valid. I see it very same way (I’m Suunto 5 user as well). This watch is just not upgrade for current S5 users. It should be called Suunto 3 paek or at least Suunto 5 light. When I saw name Suunto 5 PEAK I was really excited and expected to see more expensive Suunto 5 with compass and baro…and there is none of that…not even that compass which was basic feature in all Ambits. Just plastic instead of glass…great. I do not know why Suunto has such a problem to introduce any compact mid watch with barometer?! For me barometer is just not a reason why I would buy 3x more expensive Suunto 9 Peak…there should be something in between.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

So I’ve been watching this.

And it occurred to me: Isn’t it funny that there’s no compass in S5 line of watches when Suunto likes to emphasize its compass lineage?

[A Former User]

@tomkys said in Suunto's newest watch is the 5 Peak:

@tomas5 All points totally valid. I see it very same way (I’m Suunto 5 user as well). This watch is just not upgrade for current S5 users. It should be called Suunto 3 paek or at least Suunto 5 light. When I saw name Suunto 5 PEAK I was really excited and expected to see more expensive Suunto 5 with compass and baro…and there is none of that…not even that compass which was basic feature in all Ambits. Just plastic instead of glass…great. I do not know why Suunto has such a problem to introduce any compact mid watch with barometer?! For me barometer is just not a reason why I would buy 3x more expensive Suunto 9 Peak…there should be something in between.

Maybe to be positioned between the FR245 (non baro, plastic) and the 645 (baro,metal).
Maybe it is not a reason for you to buy 3x more expensive suunto 9 peak. But I would say for a lot of people it would be a reason to not upgrade to the S9P.

[DMytro]

@andré-faria + just as s9p to S9 was not quite meant as a complete overhaul, but rather as a flagship alternative, so is s5p to S5, hence the number wasn’t changed. Or at least that might be the reason.

[Tomas5]

@andré-faria from my opinion i would expect to S5 peak to have gps, compass, baro and at least same water proof as S5. I would see added value of S9 peak to have maybe baro and compass with better accuracy, to have touch screen (if somebody like it), to have more premium materials like saphire glass, titanium body, longer battery life. I don’t need baro as much but compass is really missing feature in S5. Navigation is great on bike, maybe while running but while hiking it is very useless when i need lot of times go 20-30meter wrong direction just to let navigation figure out which direction i am moving. With compass it would be so much better. In time of Ambit, event cheapes ambit 2R had compass if i am not mistaken. At least Ambit 2S which i purchased for 350€ with chest strap included had 50m water proof rating, compass. I see that suunto want somehow force users to by more expensive staff too. But i think this move will kill middle watch line up. But what could i know, maybe time will tell that people don’t care about this things and buy everything. But i see multiple watches on market with price below 300€ which has compas, baro, gps.

[suzzlo]

For me there is no difference between 100m-50m-30m… I never been so deep… did you really think a regular user take care about water proof? I don’t think so

BR

[Tomas5]

But somehow i told myself that i don’t care anymore. I hope S5 will work for me for next 3-4 years i hope. And than i will see what next. For now i am satisfied with S5. Yes there are some problems which i don’t like or features i am missing, or feature that was taken away. But still it is great watch and i really like it. And even i lot of times complain about something, i still like suunto and i do it just to let them know that some changes would be welcomed.

[Tomas5]

@suzzlo but at least with other watch brands it doesn’t mean that you can dive 30m deep. It is just rating that usually means that 30m is for very light swimming on surface, with 50m i thing there is allowed to snorkeling and than at 100m and more there is some real possibility for diving.

Edit: it is even more restrictive than u said above https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Resistant_mark

[DMytro]

@tomas5 you need to make a correction for inflation. I did a quick search, in 2010 350€ were the same as 444€ today. And sp5 is 50 euro less. Would you consider s9p with 50m water resistance, baro, compass for 150 euros more than it’s selling for right now?

[DMytro]

@suzzlo I would disagree on this one. 30m is rating for still water, but once you stop swimming, the pressure on the body of the watch increases - the more furious are you’re strokes, the more challenged is the watch. I don’t know by how much though and whether 30m would cover regular pool swimming or not. Next, if we’re talking outdoor swimming, we may need to anticipate waves and their impact on the watch. Finally, since waterproofing is at least somewhat realised through adhesive and it ages, I would have more trust in 100m waterproofness than 30m.
But personally, I prefer not to trust waterproof rating at all - it gives me a piece of mind if I get in the rain/snow or if I need to submerge my watch for some reason, but I wouldn’t want to go swimming with it - chest strap is enough.

[Tomas5]

@dmytro well i bought mine A2S in 2013/2014 so it would be more like 410€ in todays price. But i can’t forget that i get hr belt included. With S5P i would had to pay another 80€ for that. Suddenly difference 380€ vs 410€ is difference 30€. So yes i can buy 30€ cheaper in todays prices, but with worst spec in multiple important features. Oposite way mobile phones today are multiple times faster and has multiple times of storage, resolution and another capabilities in same price even after including inflation difference. So i don’t see this as much valid point.

Edit: no point to argue here, i am just not target group for this new S5P ( and i wasnt planing to buy one either) . We will see what future bring as.

[DMytro]

@tomas5 that’s not quite true. Bundles with HR belt cost 50 euros more, not 80. So more like 60 euros difference, no?
And once again, compared to a2p, s5p has more fitness and outdoor smarts. Better display resolution, more metrics, OHR, quick release straps, etc.
Who says that watches don’t eveolve as smartphones do? I think sensors used have gone through multiple generations between different models. Of course, the pace is not as quick as with smartphones - but barely any tech advances as fast.

I think the bottom line should be: s5p has improved in a few areas compared to S5, which is to be expected from a new model that is ± successor in this line. However, it features a ‘flagship’ GPS chipset, which is usually not the case for midranger. But it also last few things: glass display, metal buttons and water resistance. And it costs 50 euro less. If these changes are justifiable are up to the user.

[Tomas5]

@dmytro well my fault i didn’t know i could buy S5 with bundled hr belt. So i paid 80€ for that.

[suzzlo]

@dmytro @Tomas5 so… if you are advanced swimmer or so, you will need to look at S9P, or other watch, but probably, this is not S5P target user…
BR

[Tomas5]

@suzzlo is there somewhere exact meaning of waterproofing by suunto? By international standards 30m is suitable for shower only. But since this watch are usable for swimming this is not case for suunto. So what exactly 30m and 50m means by suunto ?

I am not advanced swimmer but i like to dive while snorkelling, usually not deeper than 2-3m but rarely maybe to 4m.