VO2max
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@dmytro In that case I will continue to monitor and try with more running exercises…Thank you all for prompt support and reply.
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@theguyfromthesummit thanks for the reply.
I agree, nothing from a watch is going to be as valid or reliable as a controlled test in a lab. That said, I do find some encouragement from the numbers changing over time. Also, I too feel the Fenix is more accurate given my resting HR, training volume, and general health, but I can’t prove it.
Overall, I mostly run by perceived effort - for better or worse…
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Mine has been 52.9 for as long as I can remember despite obvious losses and gains in fitness. I don’t know if there’s a glitch on my S9B or it’s just never really worked from the outset
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We all know that walking activities have a bad effect on VO2Max calculated by Suunto/Firstbeat.
I would strongly suggest to be able to turn off VO2Max calculation before launching an activity on the watch!
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@v-sacre yup, that would be very helpful. For hiking as well.
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@dmytro Well I doubt that Suunto will improve algo related to VO2max for S9 as probably all efforts will go for further models but to introduce few opyions like disable/enable would be nice
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@djordje-s Definetly with running VO2max is increasing. That leaves a question. If VO2max is measured only with walking and running and if it is not reliable for walking, it means that 50% of this feature is useless
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@djordje-s it definitely is.
Now my watch says 49 but actually my VO2max according to a lab test is 56… -
@djordje-s hiking also measures V02max, but it’s even worse than walking, since vertical gain isn’t accounted for.
I don’t run due to injury, while still doing quite a bit of endurance sports, and seeing my V02MAX at 28.6 is kinda frustrating. -
@dmytro I understand you
For me it is also frustrating to see that you are exercising and not able to see any progress. I don’t expect to be superfit but at least I exepct to see some increase -
@djordje-s said in VO2max:
I don’t expect to be superfit but at least I exepct to see some increase
An you can’t if the Vo2Max isn’t correct ?
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@theguyfromthesummit said in VO2max:
@djordje-s it definitely is.
Now my watch says 49 but actually my VO2max according to a lab test is 56…Interesting, my lab tests are 56-58 and the watch is 45-49 typically with very hard workouts. Easy workouts I am 42-46
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@brad_olwin
Good to hear, that I am not the only one -
Form my findings, if you want to have a nice VO2max you have to run at around 75/80% of your max in a flattish terrain. I mean, if I run hard my VO2max do not increase, even goes down some tenths, if I go too easy it goes down quite abruptly, but if I run at nice pace keeping my HR quite stable and as low as possible it goes up or it stays in the high values.
Another way to increase the VO2max is play a little bit with your HR zones
BTW, I haven’t read any paper from Firsbeat about how they calculate VO2max, I lost the interest on it. It’s nice to have a high VO2max regarding self-pride but from the moment that you do a technical trail running where your pace is low and your HR goes up and down all the time and you are performing at your best and then VO2max goes down some points it’s not really useful, at least for me. So, I decided not to put much effort in it.
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I also not care at all about VO2Max, is just not interesting for what I do, and it’s just a number. If you are so interested in it, try a lab test, or something simple as a Cooper test.
In practice both Suunto and Garmin give me the same VO2Max though, around 54-56 depending on the period. Normally I train only aerobic capacity for most of the year so I do not see the VO2Max increment, however I am training for a marathon now and so have to run much faster than normal, and my (watch reported) VO2Max is increasing every week more or less.
If you want this number to grow, not that it makes any sense having it grow, run 20/30 minutes as fast as you can but keeping your HR in zone 3.
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This number is a nice little game to play though. But other than that - not very useful.
