Future S9 firmware wishlist summary
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I’d like the following improvements for the navigation:
- An extra navigation data screen that gets added only when route navigation is activated. Ideally this data screen should be customizable. I’d want the following fields there:
- Next waypoint name
- Distance to next waypoint
- Distance to the end of route
It would also be great to have ascent/descent to the next waypoint. I know most of this information is available elsewhere but I really want to see these fields only when navigation is used.
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More functionality rich navigation elevation profile. I want ability to zoom the elevation profile in/out just like we zoom the navigation breadcrumbs screen. Also I want it to have hill splitter function e.g. display distance remaining and ascent/descent remaining to the end of the current climb or downhill. Ideally it would be great to be able to switch between the total ascent/descent (an overview mode) and the current climb/descent. I honestly don’t know how to achieve that with only 3 buttons, but these are features I’d use all the time.
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Distance remaining to the next waypoint or next turn at the bottom of breadcrumbs screen - similarly to how Garmin and Polar display that.
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I also like a route direction arrow displayed around a screen perimeter on regular non-navigation data screens. The idea is that you can glance on that when looking at your other data screens and have an idea of where the route a turning just ahead of you. Normally it would be at the top of most of the data, but if you missed a turn or about to turn it would shift left or right. Garmin Fenix has this feature but unfortunately it doesn’t quite work the way it should.
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@sky-runner those are great requests (and I know some field testers have suggested similar things to Suunto already). I surely hope the navigation field will be updated.
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@sky-runner I like this, especially the navigation profile.
Coros has a pretty good implementation of an interactive elevation screen.
@isazi is there a conclusion as to what the scale means? If I set it to 500ft. is that distance the diameter of the entire face or?
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@stromdiddily I thought it was the radius, or the distance between you and the border
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@isazi said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
@stromdiddily … the distance between you and the border
This.
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Btw I wish we had an adaptive s+ list, where last used items show on top. Just like in exercise tab the latest sports are shown on top.
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@sky-runner I wote for this. my “workaround” for road cycling is to create separate routes for each climb in additional to complete route and switch between routes during ride. what a user experience!
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How about Strava segments?
Suunto Spartan Sport WHR power user
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@peringmar Yeah, my training partner has live segments with his Garmin and that was one of the reasons why he bought it. Says it’s great to have
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@miniforklift For those of us who are far from the KOMs, I see it a bit unnecessary and sometimes depressingly
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@peringmar Strava segments would be great to have. I use live segment tracking often on F6X but unfortunately the implementation is quite flaky and fails almost 100% when following longer trail segments.
Basically the way it works on Fenix is that once you’ve matched a segment start it adds an extra screen which shows time on the segment, distance remaining, time ahead/behind of a PR, and another time behind that varies between the segment CR or your friend on the segment leaderboard. Fenix also highlights the segment on the map screen which is handy for following the segment.
If I designed live segments on a Suunto watch, I’d combine the map with the segment data and show a single segment screen with a segment shape as a route with your position on it to help navigating, then at the bottom distance remaining and at the top segment time and time ahead/behind the PR/CR. These times come from Strava and are embedded in segment FIT file as timestamps.
This is the feature that I’d definitely want very much on a Suunto watch, especially considering the poor Garmin implementation.
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@joakiss The beauty of live segments is that it doesn’t matter where you are on a leaderboard. It is more like a virtual partner where you race against your previous time. You see in real time how much you are ahead or behind your PR attempt on the same segment, and that is all that matters.
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@sky-runner Thank you for sharing your insights from a other platform, interesting to know how they do it. Maybe suunto can improve
Suunto Spartan Sport WHR power user
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@miniforklift hahaha, my training buddy pretty much did the same thing
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@peringmar as far as I know the main limitation for Suunto watches to gain this feature is storage for the data that would tell the watch that it is approaching a segment…true they can store a certain amount of routes and POIs however typically the Garmin watches that have this feature also can cache offline music and other heavy things like that so they are already configured with better specs. Others might be able to tell us exactly how many segments the S line could store if no routes or POIs were loaded (S9baro and S9 for instance). But I am all for this feature and am surprised that Suunto doesn’t have any watch that offers this since even Polar has this in their Vantage V watch.
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@northeast_trekker I don’t think that much storage is needed. Each segment is pretty much a GPX track and as far as I can tell points on it are fairly wide spaced - probably every 10 seconds or so.
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@sky-runner I think even the 735xt had implementation of live segments from memory and that had none of the modern bells and whistles, just the ability to follow a route.
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@sky-runner maybe but I still know there is a limit and thus there would be a limit for number of segments you could “star” to have synced to the watch. If it was enough of a limitation by the hardware it of course would not be worth it for the Suunto software teams to pursue…that was mainly my point.
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So, an update for S7 went live yesterday. I wonder if S9 will get one before the vertical week.
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Too risky for Suunto.
It for that i love Suunto. Nice design, good hardware and bugless software.
