Suunto 9 Baro total ascent vs. other watches

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@sky-runner it’s already better on s9P but the next firmware will bring a different algo.

[freeheeler]

@sky-runner
I always wonder how the organizers measure the vertical gain? Did they use a watch, too? Or is this based on a specific planning tool with topo maps? obviously all devices measured less ascent… that sounds a bit suspicious

the future should be like this: 2 independent sensors that measure the pressure and communicate to find the average, supervised by a 3rd sensor and corrected by GPS FusedAlti if required

[Patrick Löffler]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Good to hear. DCRainmaker also mentioned he received a firmware update to improve the open water swimming. So this upcoming update is already rich in content. When can we expect it?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@patrick-löffler typically Suunto releases SW update at fall

[Patrick Löffler]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Thanks. I knew you would answer that but hoped for e.g. 2nd September. I am super excited about that one. Looking forward to the better total ascent algo and hopefully a fix for the body resources.

[dombo]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos will this new algo bring some update on quick elevation change? personally I see calculation of elevation gain (finding local minimal/maximal elevation) OK for walking/slow running, but for fast cycling on “wavy” roads/trails it cuts out a lot. also vertical speed is kinda delayed and averaged too much for me.

[Bulkan]

@dombo I think so.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos is the algo update valid for baro-enabled devices only or non-baro as well?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@łukasz-szmigiel only baro

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@dombo yes

[dombo]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos perfect! I can not wait for new FW, even it will take some weeks for me to recover from injury to test it

[surfboomerang]

Suunto World Vertical Week is near…

[Brad_Olwin]

@sky-runner Good list, interesting that the Sony chip is common to all under-reporting. As @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said there are improvements for gain/loss coming.

[sky-runner]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Glad to hear that and a strong reason to consider a Suunto watch again.

Now, while we are there, please allow first day of week to be changed from the locale default too.

[sky-runner]

@freeheeler I don’t know, but this is an established race with 23 years of history. The way I’ve done that in the past myself is that I loaded an elevation graph, zoomed to it, and manually added ascent from all climbs. That takes time but produces the most accurate result. That requires an accurate altimeter and a calm weather without a strong wind when recording the run.

[MiniForklift]

@sky-runner Agreed, I’d love to manually be able to change mine to a Monday. Not particularly a big deal but would be nice!

[MdzOtt]

@dombo it is even worse when downhill skiing.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@sky-runner first day of the week as a setting is now being tested on Android alpha. So that will come in eta 1 month in beta.

[sky-runner]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Perfect! Any plans to release S9P with a larger screen and larger battery? Although I understand you aren’t supposed to share that kind of information. But that is a watch I’d buy in a heartbeat if it has the two fixes mentioned above.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@sky-runner even if I knew I cannot answer that.

I know that Fenix 7 comes January most probably though.

I am sure that in 1y -2 -3y we will see another good model from suunto if I judge from prev releases.

Spartan 2016 , s9 2018 , s9P 2021, then maybe 2023?

If we are talking about something new.

But I think now it’s Garmin’s turn over a flagship.