Transfer routes from logbook to navigation?

nikshot

@dimitrios-kanellopoulosLet me just say that the moment we record the route, there is no going back, not even the last screen.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@david-young watch out there at the concrete jungle

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nikshot what do you mean ?

nikshot

@dimitrios-kanellopoulosWith A2 if it crashes maybe (but it didn’t happen to me) … but with S9 as it is connected it is guaranteed that I will not have a track at the end!

nikshot

@dimitrios-kanellopoulosIt’s very simple - return the old function in question.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nikshot that is not so simple but I agree

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nikshot s9 will keep the current recorded data , also not sure what A2 would do

nikshot

@dimitrios-kanellopoulosS9 will keep them, but what of it as I will not be able to use them at the moment ??? I have relied on A2 for years and it has never betrayed me, I am happy to have kept it!

nikshot

@dimitrios-kanellopoulosI want to add that the application is great and very useful when I decide to plan a route from home, but when I’m in the wild I desperately need the most important features - you already know what it is

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nikshot Roger.

Keep in mind I cannot promise. I am adding this feedback to my reports but even if this feature was the best / most wanted for me , I dont decide. I dont want to raise hopes that’s why I am saying this.

David Young

@nikshot did you contact Suunto and ask them why that functionality is missing from your app?

@brad_olwin said in Transfer routes from logbook to navigation?:

I can import a GPX file from a list on the phone and import into SA … with no cellular and no wifi.

This isn’t working for me on the latest iOS public version. It loads the GPX file, it displays the route, but cannot save it (Save button doesn’t do anything when is pushed).

Fenr1r

@andrasveres Same here on 2.4.1 (Beta 8996). Save button does show it’s been tapped but that’s it. Tried with & w/o cached map tile areas, GPX from Files, from external storage. BT watch connection adds the “Use in watch” toggle but on/off makes no difference.

Brad_Olwin

@nikshot said in Transfer routes from logbook to navigation?:

@brad_olwinFor me this is a very serious drawback and again I say it makes no sense the whole concept of a watch whose main function is to be GPS navigation !!! Imagine three days moving in the high mountains in an absolutely unknown and wild place, without marked trails, without internet connection. Every day you make a track in the clock with the idea to go back the same way! On the fourth day you go back, but you don’t have internet, electricity in the phone, the phone broke, you lost your phone, the rain got it wet and it blocked … And what if I have a watch (depending on the phone in question) with GPS navigation, with a battery of up to 170 hours, a watch that is so strong and protected that it will work even after an atomic bomb ??? What exactly will it do for me in this situation - maybe to measure my heart rate (if I could and blood pressure: D) to find out how angry I am with the ridiculous situation …

I do a lot of off trail “runs” and SkiMo in the mountains. Either I make sure I have maps on my phone, they are downloaded and I know how to use them (my phone is more or less waterproof) and when out on multi day trips I will carry a paper map and a compass that I know how to use. Sorry but I would never depend on exclusively on the watch to navigate, no matter whether a watch had maps or not. So for me, and this is my opinion only, I use the watch so I do not have to take out a map frequently. However, when in new places I typically will check the map on my phone often, once every two hours or so……

Efejota

Same here iOS beta 2.4.1 (8996). GPX import is not possible (toggle button makes no difference). As previously stated, it is also impossible to have a route from an activity, make it a route and transfer to the watch without internet connection.

I do agree with @Brad_Olwin and @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos that this latter might be a very specific case. However, I find it of some use in certain circumstances where you need to save phone battery or connection is very poor or even inexistent. For people coming from A3P, for instance, is difficult to assume that you cannot do it in S9B. Also, if that possibility is present in Android, is hard to share its absence in iOS.

margusl

@efejota said in Transfer routes from logbook to navigation?:

For people coming from A3P, for instance, is difficult to assume that you cannot do it in S9B

Exactly. It’s one those small features that almost never ends up being a selling point, but there’s always a group of users picking it up and taking it as granted, even if they use it just once a year. I wouldn’t consider it as a safety feature, but it sure was nice to retrace part of trail run from last week or going though some unplanned/ah-hoc guiding and leading a group to the starting point of previous tour without too much bushwhacking. .

Another brand has pushed it a bit further by allowing to plot the track of any pervious activity still in the watch on top of the current, really nice for picking return points for those early morning phone-free strolls and jogs in the woods that you know bit less than assumed.

David Young

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos

BREADCRUMB

Breadcrumb didn’t give me anything.

I started a new exercise on leaving home and ended it on arriving at my destination. 15 or 20 mins later I started back home. I looked on the watch for the Breadcrumb, but could find nothing.

So I reckon the watch might have kept the Breadcrumb for a few minutes, then got rid of it.

Scary if you were relying on it!

Personally I can live with the phone option, and anyway my Traverse still works perfectly. But I worry when I read that IOS version is missing even the phone option! Suppose that Suunto decide to synchronise the different versions of the app and remove the phone option from Android as well?

So I urge anyone who thinks this is an important piece of functionality to get on to Suunto and tell them.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@david-young uh , did you restart the activity ? Then the breadcrumb is gone.

No need to be SO Loud , it works well you just have to know how to use it.

Efejota

@david-young breadcrumb is designed to last for the duration of the activity. If you finish it, breadcrumbs are eaten by the birds It is equivalent to the A3P function of take me back or something similar (reversing the route), with the difference that you just have to follow back the drawn route.

Of course, there is a problem if you, for instance, plan a two days activity, finish the first one, go to sleep and in the morning decides to go back. Then, you will need to have the route back previously planned or sync with your phone, bad thing if you run out of battery or, worse, you are in an area without coverage. There lays the main limitation of the iOS system, in my opinion.

Important as this feature may seem for some of us, please, take into consideration that good manners are always a good advice in any forum.

J

wakarimasen

I may have the wrong end of the stick: if so, I apologise…

A couple of weeks ago, I made a route (from A-B) in Komoot, and transferred it so my Spartan Sport WHR Baro via the Suunto app. On reaching ‘B,’ I stopped the activity and had lunch. For the return (B-A) I simply selected the same route and started walking: the watch recognised I was walking ‘the other way’ and navigated the reverse route. Would the S9B behave differently?