Notification issues, not silencing phone...
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@Jamie-BG said in Notification issues, not silencing phone...:
@Lars-Bengtsson
When using the phone’s wear os silence option it seems to somehow clash with the suunto apps routing software, and if using a route while tracking and using the map screen to view the route, it can cause the watch to crash. Suunto are aware, and are looking into it, but might take a wear os fix rather than a suunto one - who knows, but in the mean time ensuring that silence is off prior to tracking a routed activity prevents any crashes.Not sure if it is using the Optical HR monitor or if there is another sensor, but seems to use that; as if you have set up and have GPay active, when you take your watch off your wrist it will automatically lock it. You have to put your passcode into the watch to unlock it.
Re - Phone DND - may depend on your settings. Technically if your phone is DND - and you aren’t allowing any notifications, would suspect that your watch shouldn’t vibrate, as would expect it isn’t getting any notifications. But of course will depend on how you set up the DND.
Seems like you know what you are talking about
I’m glad to hear that Suunto is aware of this issue, I’m not sure if Google is or if they even care and are going to do anything about it though
I don’t have G-pay setup on my watch because G-pay on wearables are not yet available in Sweden.
I haven’t done anything different in the setup if the DND on my oneplus, it works fine and it doesn’t seem to affect the notifications on the watch because now the watching is working just like I want it to. I just have to remind myself to turn off the DND on my phone when there take the watch off. Thankfully it isn’t that often and alarms on my phone is set to ring through DND, it’s even set to ring even if the phone is powered off
I’ve reached out to Suunto in every way possible and they got back to me on twitter and wanted to know which devices I’m having these issues with and the OS version of them so I think they’re at least going to look at the issue. Anxious to hear from support if they looked in to it and hear what they have to say about it
I wonder if it would help if I uninstalled the Suunto app and cleared cache afterwards? And maybe factory reset the watch and skip the setup of the Suunto app on the watch as well, just to se what happens
I have a friend who also have the Suunto 7 And and a oneplus 7 pro, only his phone had more RAM And is prepared for 5g. Mot sure if this makes any difference And not sure how he is using the suunto 7 and/or what his setup on notifications are bit i will check with him.
A colleague of mine also have a Suunto 7 bit his phone is a Samsung Galaxy s20+ (l may have mentioned this before in this thread, not sure
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@Lars-Bengtsson I don’t think this has anything to do with the phone suunto app. I think this is more of a wear os watch/phone issue.
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@Jamie-BG
Maybe you are right.I got this in a reply from Suunto in a pm on twitter after I reached to to them:
"…check in the wearOS app in your phone. Under settings select notifications>silence phone>make sure silence alerts and notifications is OFF.
We need to also keep in mind there are a lot of things that have an impact on the said feature. On the watch, the software plays a big part, so make sure your software has been updated. On the phone, it would mainly depend on how Bluetooth protocols are handled, which in turn depends on the phone model, the software version, the platform, etc. We understand those challenges can be frustrating and please know we keep improving the suunto 7…"
I think they are aware of these issues and are working on it for future updates, and that’s enough for me.
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I don’t know if it’s the same issue you are having, but I put my S7 into battery saver mode during the night and when I wake it up in the morning, it no longer silences the notifications on my phone.
This is a WearOS issue on the phone, NOT an issue with the S7 or Suunto App.
To resolve it, I simply launch WearOS on the phone and go to Notifications>Silence phone while wearing watch where both toggles will already be on. I then turn each one off, and then turn them back on again. Et voila, my phone will once again be silenced.
May not work for you, but might be worth a try.
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@olymay said in Notification issues, not silencing phone...:
I don’t know if it’s the same issue you are having, but I put my S7 into battery saver mode during the night and when I wake it up in the morning, it no longer silences the notifications on my phone.
This is a WearOS issue on the phone, NOT an issue with the S7 or Suunto App.
To resolve it, I simply launch WearOS on the phone and go to Notifications>Silence phone while wearing watch where both toggles will already be on. I then turn each one off, and then turn them back on again. Et voila, my phone will once again be silenced.
May not work for you, but might be worth a try.
Interesting!
Otherwise after you’ve done this the notifications on watch and the phone is silent untill you set it to battery saver mode again?
What phone are you using?
*Edit: I saw in your signature that you have a Pixel 5
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@Lars-Bengtsson said in Notification issues, not silencing phone...:
@olymay said in Notification issues, not silencing phone...:
I don’t know if it’s the same issue you are having, but I put my S7 into battery saver mode during the night and when I wake it up in the morning, it no longer silences the notifications on my phone.
This is a WearOS issue on the phone, NOT an issue with the S7 or Suunto App.
To resolve it, I simply launch WearOS on the phone and go to Notifications>Silence phone while wearing watch where both toggles will already be on. I then turn each one off, and then turn them back on again. Et voila, my phone will once again be silenced.
May not work for you, but might be worth a try.
Interesting!
Otherwise after you’ve done this the notifications on watch and the phone is silent untill you set it to battery saver mode again?
What phone are you using?
*Edit: I saw in your signature that you have a Pixel 5Well I’ve tried this also on my devices but the problem remains…
I’ll wait and let the developers at Suunto, Oneplus and Google do their magic on this one
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@Lars-Bengtsson Correct. Every time I set the watch to battery saver and back again, it stops silencing the phone, despite the toggle in WearOS on the phone being set to silence.
As I do this every night I have gotten used to jumping into the app and toggling the settings off and on again.
It’s a minor gripe and something I still think is a WearOS issue unfortunately. -
Update…
After the update from Suunto, no difference.
I’m waiting for the update to Android 11 from Oneplus, hoping that this will do the trick.
I’ve gotten used to having the settings like they are now, only thing that’s bugging me is that if I’m not wearing the watch Both the watch and phone are silent if I forget to turn off “do not disturb” on the phone…I wonder why Suunto couldn’t fix this issue with the latest update…
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@lars-bengtsson you have lost me a bit there. But watch generally will be silent if DND is on the phone (depending on how you have set up your DND).
The watch, for most apps, runs off phone notifications, thus if they are off due to DND, you will not receive them on the watch - sort of makes sense.
If you want notifications on watch but not phone, then you need to use the silence phone option in the phones wear os app.Of course standalone watch apps like agenda etc will continue to notify as part of watch, its not a push through notification.
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@jamie-bg Have you read the thread?
As I explained in the beginning I have to have the phone on dnd, silent or what ever you call it (it’s a oneplus 7 pro so I have the notification slider up on the right side of the phone all the way upp so the phone is silent, no vibrations or anything. And I get notifications on my watch. This is exactly like I want it when I’m wearing the watch. There is one problem with this"fix"; if I forget to slide the notification slider on the phone to get notification in sound and vibrations I will miss calls and texts and more, this has happened a few times and it is a bit frustrating. If I go into settings on the wear OS app and set The phone to silent when watch is on and I’m wearing it, the phone still gives me notifications, both in sound and vibrations. But the watch doesn’t always give me a notification. The notification is there on the watch, I can see the little dot at the bottom of the screen. This is apparently a glitch that has to do with Wear OS and the watch OS. Been in contact with support and they are aware of the issue. I was hoping that the latest update would fix this but no such luck.
Now I have to wait for Android 11 from Oneplus and maybe a update on the wear OS app from Google.Hope you understand my problem
If you have some tips or maybe even a fix for this issue I’m all ears. But please read the thread if you haven’t already so I don’t have to repeat myself.
Maybe you have read it and I just didn’t remember that I am sorry
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@lars-bengtsson This isn’t wear os or Android - this is purely OnePlus.
That profile slide button is great, but it isn’t properly integrated into Android and that is what is causing the issue.I have similar problems with it, with other apps. I use a profile manager to create profiles and automatically switch them on and off i.e. set up a night one so no quite, wifi, data etc off, then early morning keeps quite but data wifi on and sync on, so pulls in all my email etc ready for me when i wake up. Just before wake up time, the profile switches back all volumes etc. this used to work great on my previous phone, but ever since got OnePlus it doesn’t. I have to use the slider every morning to switch from active to silent and back again . Personally would rather not have this feature as never use it - a profile switcher is a much better option, and or just as easy to adjust in quick settings. But is definitely linked to this slider and how they have tweaked android to make this work.
So no I don’t see a solution at any time in the future, as would require OnePlus to fix.
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@jamie-bg But the problem was there before I started to use the slider. I started to used it to get notifications to work the way I wanted them to, just as they did with my other watches. The slider is just to silence the phone while the setting in Wear app for silencing phone is of because it doesn’t work for me.
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I bought myself a Oneplus 8T this week and I’m sad to say that the problem persists even on Android 11.
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Update:
The issue remains. Been in contact with support for Suunto, Oneplus and Google but no help. Suunto is telling me to contact Oneplus and vice versa.
Frustrating to say the least.
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@lars-bengtsson I just tested this on my Oneplus Nord and my Suunto 7. My Oneplus Nord is updated to Android 11 and I had the alert slider on Ring. In the Wear OS app I had selected that the phone should remain silent when receiving a phone call. When getting a phone call my phone’s display turned on, but there were no vibration and no ringing. My Suunto 7 did vibrate. I also tested it with the slider on Vibrate. Phone didn’t ring or vibrate, but watch did vibrate. So I guess I do not have the same issue that you have.
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@aeroild Interesting!
Notifications on my phone was loud and vibrating but on my watch some notifications wasn’t noticable at all.
I wish that Suunto could make an effort to resolve this issue and not just pass the responsibility on.
I have paid a significant amount of money for this watch and I had expected it to function fully with an android phone. -
@lars-bengtsson this is likely a conflict between OxygenOS and WearOS, I very much doubt it has anything to do with Suunto themselves.
I used to have a OnePlus 2 & 3T back in the day and they both constantly had connection issues with a number of wearables I was using at the time.
I would suggest going through all notification settings, in WearOS on the watch and phone, as well as within OxygenOS. Toggle them all on and off a few times, and check the results.
I think the hardware toggle on the phone does cause some issues with certain devices and/or nitifications (it used to cause me no end of problems).A quick question… do you regularly turn off the S7? or put it into battery saver mode?
I used to do this and it can confuse WearOS at times. I had to go into WearOS on the phone and toggle both silence notifications and call off and on again in quick succession. This would remedy the issue I had.As I said, this is a WearOS and OxygenOS issue, not Suunto.
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@olymay
It’s a conflict but between Suunto OS, Oxygen OS or Wear OS or both. That’s what Suunto support wrote to me just before they asked me to contact Oneplus about it.
That and the fact that I’ve had just about every Oneplus phone they’ve have made since they first started making smartphones and four different watches. One Sony, one Huawei, one ticwatch and now a Suunto7. And the S7 is the only one that I’ve had this kind of issues with, or any issues at all for that matter.
So I’m still pretty sure that Suunto has some blame in this matter.
I reboot my devices regularly and I set watch on theatre mode (is that what it’s called?) during the night just to make sure I don’t press any button’s och anything else when I sleep.
I test the settings that don’t work in wear os regularly, every times I see that Wear OS has updated or after every firmware update on the watch to check if there was been any changes.
I never turn the watch of and the only time it’s not on my wrist is when I charge it.
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@lars-bengtsson SuuntoOS is a new one to me, the S7 runs on WearOS. But I’m by no means a developer, just a consumer like you are.
I used to have similar issues to you in that when I put the watch into battery saver mode (effectively disconnecting it from the phone) overnight, upon reconnection it would notify n both the phone and watch. I would go into the WearOs app on the phone and toggle the silence notifications off and on again in quick succession without leaving that screen. Worked every time.
This leads me to believe it is something in WearOS that is at fault.
Like you, I have had a wide range of devices, but they all ran either different versions of WearOS, Android, OxygenOS, OneUI, or something else entirely. I have experience numerous conflicts between devices (don’t get me started on my Withings watch
)If you haven’t yet tried what I did then I would recommend giving that a try.
If you have, then there is a chance that one (or both) of your devices is faulty.(could always try a factory reset of each device in turn?)
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@olymay
Maybe it isn’t called OS but I’m pretty sure there some kind of adaptation of Wear OS to make it work with Suunto 7 and that is what I mean by Suunto OS. There was something about the Suunto app in the email I got from Suunto support, some conflict there as well. I will check my inbox tomorrow and se if I can find it.
I never put my watch in batterysaver mode, I’ve tried toggle the settings in Wear OS on and off several times in many different scenarios.
I had a Oneplus 7 pro before I bought this Oneplus 8T and I tried factory resetting that one a couple of times but it didn’t work. I have only had my 8T for a little over a month and I won’t reset this one if I’m not more convinced it’ll fix the issue.
I’ve factory reset the S7 several times also buy no luck.
I literally have tried every tip or suggestion that I’ve received in this discussion thread.
It’s alot to ask to read everything and I can’t remember if you have taken part in the discussion before but the suggestions you have for me has been mentioned before.
