Multisport mode

@Egika I tried it. You can prepare it. But you start swimming. Change to transition. After transition you want change to bike, but in first position is again swimming, while it is at this moment last activated sport. After bike you change again to transition and then you want change to run. But you have in menu first bike (last sport before transition) than swimming and running is 3th position. Not so easy as you wrote.

And I didn’t say actually multisport is bad. I agree with you. It is good this possibility change sports when you want. But with customization triathlon or possibilities predefined more multisport it will be better. And if you will not use it, nothing change for you.

In Ambit2 was both possibility. You could change sport manually, as in case S9 or you could predefined owen multisport mode (triathlon, duathlon, swimmrun,… what you want). Becose of this I don’t understand why it missing by newer models.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

If we are talking about duathlon or swim run a special mode would make more sense , than abusing multisport.

Egika

@mcindr we are mixing triathlong an duathlon here.
Please read my other comment above.
@Bulkan was mentioning all three in one sentence and I replied to this.

for duathlon and swimrun it is as simple as described.

for triathlon, there is the triathlon mode - so no need to use the multisport feature (and I wrote before, that I agree a customization of the screens for triathlon is missing)

should be all said now…

zadow

Hello good multisport people out there. I read the discussion and I see that in some way, I have to agree/disagree to certain point with every opinion here…

I use multisport a lot because of my triathlon trainings and it really took me some time to find my best practice, how to switch between sports…
Well, I do not want to discuss apparent things, which you all already mentioned here.
There is one thing which came to my mind lately, which could be a feature suggestion, maybe.

I was thinking about, let’s call it - “Activity Profiles”

Activity profile would contain list of activities.
Example: I create an Activity profile called “Trainning”. this profile contains all my sportmodes, which I use for training, like, running, cycling, swimming, strength training, flexibility traigning, etc…" Second profile would be “Triathlon race”. Into this profile I put OW swimming, running, cycling (and maybe some customized activity, which I could use for transitions). Third Activity Profile could be “Swimrun race” where I put OW swimming and running only. Fourht profile - “Outdoors” with hiking, skiing, mountaneering. And so on. There also could be “Default” activity profile with all activities.
Well, what would be the benefit of such profiles? I could activate one profile at the time on the watch and only the list of activities related to that profile will show on my watch. Change sport in Multisport would be much more easier (you do not have to scroll to right activity over all others which you do not need right now).

Well, I am not sure whether you got the idea. Maybe it’s total bullshit. I am not sure. It is something what came to my mind, when I was thinking how to make the multisport switch easier.

Sorry for never ending post and thanks if you made it down here

Have a nice day all and stay healthy!

DRezvoff

to All:

the main problem and difference between the “multisport” mode and the “triathlon” mode is the inability to switch with one click. I’m talking about winter triathlon (which cannot be created from triathlon mode) and winter duathlon (cycling and running). you have to look at the watch, press the button, select the mode by pressing, press again … try switching modes when you hold the skis in one hand, sticks in the other, and then switch the mode by tightening the lanyards of the sticks … this is very inconvenient.

just add the ability to edit the mode - triathlon.

Yes! in. SuuntoApp and SportTracker cannot view all sports that were in multisport mode, there is only general data … in Movescount it was possible to watch it …

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@DRezvoff you can in suunto app iOS and very soon on Android as well

sartoric

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Multisport mode:

@DRezvoff you can in suunto app iOS and very soon on Android as well

Bulkan

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Damn it. Android is much faster than iOS development. We had one thing to presume…

Egika

@DRezvoff again - yes and no.

In triathlon mode it is not one click. It is a long button press into transition and a short one to the next sport.
For duathlon it is exactly the same. Long button press - the previous sport mode will be already selected - and short press to start it. No need to look. Same like triathlon mode.
And since there is no transition in swimrun, actually better suited.

Only for winter triathlon it is as you say. You need to look at the watch to select the correct next mode.
So yes: triathlon sports mode configuration needs to be implemented in the app

@Egika And how you will make transition? This what you wrote means, that you will have transition time in activity.

@Egika Transition is 4th discipline of triathlon and similarly sports (duathlon, winter triathlon,…). You can lost a lot of time if you make it slowly

DRezvoff

today I took part in winter triathlon competitions: 3-5-5, running - bike - skiing. I have created a mode - “transit zone”, try switching modes when you are running with a bike on loose snow, and then with skis. you need to look under your feet, and not look for the desired mode. at the same time rivals whose Garmin watches do not experience such problems. it is unpleasant. and in the SuuntoApp then there is no division by type, I can only look at the watch. only two views were exported to the Strava app - skis and bicycles, running and transit zones were not exported: ((((

competitions in SuuntoApp - https://www.suunto.com/move/drezvoff/5ffa8c08267fff271b2421a1

Strava profile - https://www.strava.com/athletes/62478208

as a result, after a couple of hours Strava downloaded the remaining parts, but there they are also inconvenient to watch broken: ((((

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DRezvoff

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I’m really looking forward to! in a month I will participate in the stage of the Russian Cup in zmny triathlon! I really don’t want to lose precious seconds in the transit zone

freeheeler

@DRezvoff said in Multisport mode:

I really don’t want to lose precious seconds in the transit zone

I assume the organizer is responsible for your timekeeping, isn’t it?
what if you just record one activity called thriathlon and you don’t even touch your watch once and only at home you use the tool you like to split up your activity?

@TELE-HO It is not so comfortable solution whitch I expect from sport watch in category S9 baro. But technically what about different pods for different sport? Power pod for bike, foot pod for running… I would like to see my speed during cycling, peace during running…

freeheeler

@mcindr
why do you need a pod when you have the watch? that’s a new topic, right?
I know it’s not ideal, but I understood that you miss seconds when pressing buttons, select sport modes etc.
I bet you will always loose seconds when you do not focus on the activity anymore, no matter how well it is solved. And I’m sure the time you measure will never match exactly what the organizer measures.
By coincidence I saw recently on TV that a professional cross-country skier passed the finishline, but he stopped his watch behind the finishline. He might have started it before the startingline, too. I assume he gives 100% between the lines and stopping the own recording in such a high level is secondary, or am I wrong?

I am that type of guy who would even put on socks and lace shoes for running. But I can imagine that I would do things differently if I would race at all and aim for a rank within the best 10%

@TELE-HO Why pods? How you can measure your power only with watch without power meter? The same for cadence by cycling.

freeheeler

@mcindr
…well… I don’t as I said, I would even lace shoes
don’t get me wrong!
I can think of a setup where you can switch between swim, transition, bike, transition, run with one press… but then: do you need buttons locked?

back to the pods: what’s the issue there? they both can be paired, can’t they?

@TELE-HO Topic “pods” was reaction to your solution use one sport mode for complet triatlon. This is reason why is it not possible. If you change sport in multisport mode or triathlon mode it changes this pods too. Cycling power meter, cycling bike pod,…

Egika

@mcindr said in Multisport mode:

@Egika And how you will make transition? This what you wrote means, that you will have transition time in activity.

I am doing triathlon - I know there are transitions.
And if there are - triathlon mode is the only way to go, that makes sense.

I was still referring to duathlons and swinruns above.
Afaik in a swimrun, you just run and swim in the same outfit (have never done it - so correct me if I’m wrong). No transition.