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    • stromdiddilyS Offline
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      Been wearing my S9B and my Whoop 24/7 for about a week now using the Whoop as a HRM when performing activities.

      Results have been that I’m consistently seeing about double the calories burned reported by the S9 as I am by the Whoop. While I will say that Whoop is pretty cloak and dagger w their algos and metrics (can’t even see my generated HR max for example), the Whoop values seem to be more in line.

      For example - weight lifting session this morning. Nothing crazy, RPE of maybe 4-5 for a strength session. 45 minutes long, S9B calculated almost 400kcal while Whoop was only 128.

      I believe S9B calories are calculated using age/weight and not set HR zones. Is this true? Otherwise, is it possible to manipulate to bring it back down to a more “normal” type amount?

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      • sartoricS Offline
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        Just remember that S9 does include metabolic calories too, not only active calories

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          @sartoric it’s the active calories that I’m not so sure on. Rest of the day looks close enough.

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            @stromdiddily
            I mean that 400 includes the active ones AND the metabolic calories burnt during the training.
            So if Whoop measure only active ones , you’ll surely find differences

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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              keep in mind that it is based on HR but differnt sport modes have different tuning

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              • Kurt68K Offline
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                In my tests, I made the experience that Garmin and Suunto deliver almost identical values ​​and Polar significantly more. I don’t think they can really measure their calories exactly.

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                  @Kurt68 no they can’t. I also heard that our bodies adapt to exercise to a point where total daily calories consumption is the same if we have an active lifestyle or not. Will link to sources later 🙂

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                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
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                    @stromdiddily I was hungry after my last race in March, the watch said I burned 3639 kcal so I believed it.

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                      This is the material I was talking about. The page contains the podcast, plus links to articles. Very interesting (according to me).

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                      • stromdiddilyS Offline
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos oh OK. Thought it was based off of the body metrics. Don’t think there is a weights specific profile but perhaps I could create a running specific then play around w the default values 🤔

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                        • Stefan KerstingS Offline
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                          @Brad_Olwin did a 9 hour backcountry trip and feeled pretty hungry after that, too. In General I think the calculation works for when seeing on my activity level and how many calories I eat

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                            @Stefan-Kersting said in Calories Burned - Overstated:

                            @Brad_Olwin did a 9 hour backcountry trip and feeled pretty hungry after that, too. In General I think the calculation works for when seeing on my activity level and how many calories I eat

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