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    Software update 2.13.18 for S series (S3,S5,S9)

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    • surfboomerangS Offline
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      last edited by surfboomerang

      Is it coincidence or just my perception, but has the altitude drift in watch mode got worse since the update?

      Last evening I had a evening run and came home with an altitude of -2m which is very accurate, because I live 1m below sea level. I left the watch on the table overnight and this morning when I picked up the watch, it showed me an altitude of -20m.

      Shouldn’t the watch interpret pressure change while stationary or in standby as weather change instead of altitude change?

      Some extra info:
      The pressure at an official station is 1018.6 hPa (altitude: +0,86m) at the moment this station is 11km from my location. My watch, corrected to an altitude of +1m, reads 1021 hPa. I know the watch shows sea level pressure, but 1m off won’t make that big of a difference

      After the update of the watch I also did an additional soft reset

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      • stromdiddilyS Offline
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        @surfboomerang I’m down 100ft at my house in the day since the update…

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        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
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          @surfboomerang living in the same place no issues but but but.

          The watch if it gets vibration it can get chnages.

          Especially in NL that the pressure can change sometimes rapidly.

          I do get some days this issue. Home at -2 after 2 days of doing nothing (and wearing the watch at home ) it’s at -15m.

          But I have this issue mainly at NL.

          That said we can monitor this. Just in case.

          To be clear we didn’t change anything there.

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          • Radu NegoescuR Offline
            Radu Negoescu
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            Ah sorry just posted a new topic, did not see this one. I am unable to update the firmware to 2.13.18, the watch remains in the dreaded 4 dots, 3rd dot blinking pattern, and SuuntoLink complains it was disconnected (I swear I didn’t touch it, especially the second time around!). Consistent behaviour, no way to update. I’ve had to reset it twice (disconnected for real, reconnected, SuuntoLink reinstalled 2.12.20 with no issues).

            Is this a known issue or am I just unlucky? Support/Isabelo says “faulty cable likely” but wouldn’t that mean 2.12.20 cannot be restored either? @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos what do you think? (well done for landing the job, this is recent isn’t it?)

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            • isaziI Offline
              isazi Moderator @surfboomerang
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              @surfboomerang what happened to me was that before the update altitude was +2, after the update it was -5. Since then it had no sudden drops/ups anymore outside activity. But this week has seen wild pressure changes in NL.

              P.S. I am still not sure at which altitude my home is, is there a proper way to check this 🙂

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              • Radu NegoescuR Offline
                Radu Negoescu @isazi
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                @isazi Have you considered checking the information on Google Maps for your specific location? Altitude should also be given when you enable “Terrain view” and then enable “view elevation”
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                • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                  Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
                  last edited by

                  @isazi shouldn’t a phone capable of multi GNSS and an app displaying GPS data be enough?

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                  • isaziI Offline
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                    @Radu-Negoescu @Łukasz-Szmigiel I was just very lazy until today, living in flatland, but now according to this website I am something like -1 below sea level.

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                    • surfboomerangS Offline
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                      last edited by

                      @isazi https://www.ahn.nl/ahn-viewer
                      Try this

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                      • surfboomerangS Offline
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Tnx, I will keep an eye on it…

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                          @stromdiddily said in Software update 2.13.18 for S series (S3,S5,S9):

                          @surfboomerang I’m down 100ft at my house in the day since the update…

                          Is it raining extremely hard?

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                          • stromdiddilyS Offline
                            stromdiddily Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
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                            @Brad_Olwin yeah weather has been pretty crazy last few days. BUT I haven’t moved around much so would have expected to see those changes come through on the baro side. Or is there a limit?

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                              @Radu-Negoescu it seems like elevation can be shown on very limited areas. I cannot find none of elevation numbers on google map 200 km around my living place.

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                              • lexterm77L Offline
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                                I used beidou with gps on trail run today and it looks worse than on gps only. I am switching back to gps only. I am happy with it (gps only) as it now looks indistinguishable from my A3P tracks. 👌

                                I had few seconds power drop to zero on Stryd wind device on one of my non stop run activities this summer and contacted Stryd Support, they quickly replied to me that is a known Suunto9b problem of dropping connections. I forgot to mention that here on forums as beer and bourbon mixed with some curated playlists of Coltain&Miles and news put on mute with caption seemed to be more interesting thing to be occupied with than ranting on forums about power drop on a power meter loosely attached to the laces of my left shoe. Fortunately, this problem seems to have gone away by itself. 😄

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                                  @stromdiddily Don’t know but when we have major fronts come through my elevation can change by 50-100m. As soon as I exercise FusedTrack fixes it. I don’t worry too much about it. I know my house is not sinking.

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                                  • surfboomerangS Offline
                                    surfboomerang @Brad_Olwin
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                                    @Brad_Olwin Totally right. I noticed that too on drastic weather changes.
                                    But to me it doesn’t make sense that the watch interprets pressure change as altitude change while it is in standby/sleep mode. It knows it isn’t moving, because the display turns off.

                                    Once you keep moving it, I imagine it can be harder to distinguish pressure change is due to weather change or altitude change.

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                                      @surfboomerang The interesting thing for me is almost all of my storm alerts come while I am exercising. When I go back and check with a mountain weather station, I find the watch was correct, there was a huge drop in pressure that was fast. Our weather is complicated, I am at 1550m and a few km from me is a wall that varies from 3900 to 4300m. We have complicated weather patterns and wind and the weather can change over the period of a day or a couple hours. The other issue is work for me is 1700m and traveling back and forth is more problematic for elevations not being correct in the two places.

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                                      • stromdiddilyS Offline
                                        stromdiddily Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
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                                        @Brad_Olwin issue isn’t so much w the home location but I do rely on the watch face altitude when out backpacking. Useful in making sure I’m on the right/same level as camp…

                                        Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

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                                          @stromdiddily The work around for this is just use the auto-calibrate feature when you are at a camp. This always restores my altitude values.

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                            @Brad_Olwin

                                            Do you need to take watch off wrist for auto calibration?

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