So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?
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@Fenr1r said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@Kuba-Sarata For a lot of functions (possibly only the ones that couldn’t also be changed on the watch) you do need a computer with MC App: it’s the server at the other end of the data connection you also require for that set-up change. SA does more settings changes to the watch “independently” in that sense.
MC app you could do far more on the ambits SA you can do nothing
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@Fenr1r You’re right but not with the Ambits
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@Fenr1r said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@isazi said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
We are waiting for your YouTube series in which you try to kill wild Ambits.
I believe the Traverse has a Sport Mode for that.
oooooooooo share please pretty please lol
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@isazi said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
I have tried using a stick, axe, explosives just won’t die lol…PERFECT WATCH.
We are waiting for your YouTube series in which you try to kill wild Ambits.
I still have my ambit peak somewhere…this seems like a plan lol
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@Kuba-Sarata @lohtse So long as you have a data connection. If not, you can actually do at least one more thing with an A3 and SA than with MC. You’re screwed on setup, routes, etc., with either app but (as I understand it) you can effectively offload Moves to SA. On a long, multi-day trek, that might save your records before the A3 starts overwriting them for lack of memory space.
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@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@sebchastang As far as I understand (I may be wrong) it’s not “removing Mini Apps” it’s rather “Saving data generated by Mini Apps is not supported by Suunto App”.
Yes, you are correct. It is more about saving those data. But I understand that at the end of this month, only watch profile feature and route management would be possible through movescount.com. (link to “Suunto app zone” would be removed, just like other sections on the website). That is why I talk about loosing mini apps and loosing associated logs.
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@sebchastang as I said it’s not clear to me if “Suunto app zone” (http://www.movescount.com/apps) to be shutdown. Generated data is not supported by Suunto App, for sure - but Apps Directory - not clear.
Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer
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@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@sebchastang as I said it’s not clear to me if “Suunto app zone” (http://www.movescount.com/apps) to be shutdown. Generated data is not supported by Suunto App, for sure - but Apps Directory - not clear.
Better not shut it down… I use mini apps far too much…
At least two of my sports modes are purely based around mini apps and the data they collect… And the rest will have one or two if not more mini apps in them…
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@lohtse would be interesting to know what apps and sportmodes, how you use them. But better as separate topic.
Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer
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@pavel-samokha thank you for your information. Do you think “Suunto app” will support the generated data in the future ? Do you agree it is a loss and it is legitimate to ask for synchronizing and viewing those data in Suunto app ?
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@sebchastang said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@pavel-samokha thank you for your information. Do you think “Suunto app” will support the generated data in the future ? Do you agree it is a loss and it is legitimate to ask for synchronizing and viewing those data in Suunto app ?
I think it is!!!
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@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@lohtse would be interesting to know what apps and sportmodes, how you use them. But better as separate topic.
Setup the thread and let us all answer the questions you ask,
As a side note none of my sports mode are default, All are personalised heavily(screen shot is missing the caving and Shooting modes
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@lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
@lohtse would be interesting to know what apps and sportmodes, how you use them. But better as separate topic.
Setup the thread and let us all answer the questions you ask,
Yes, I will be glad to contribute to this topic and give any information you need to make it possible!
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I switched to Suunto originally because I liked Movescount so much. I couldn’t stand Suunto App so discontinuing of Movescount was a factor into my decision to move to another brand. And several Suunto owners that I talked to are going to do the same.
I can’t quite pinpoint what makes SuuntoApp so annoying to me - that probably requires a separate post on its own - but I can’t stand it.
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@sky-runner I, too, based my decision to buy a Spartan on the ability to use Movescount. Literally two months later, Suunto announced their plans to scrap the platform.
I’m still not happy with that and I’m still not impressed with the way the company is treating its oldest, and by extension, most loyal users who own Ambit devices, so that 30% discount for a new Suunto watch cuts no ice with me whatsoever. A few weeks ago I bought a Coros Vertix and so far I couldn’t be happier with it. Can’t see myself returning to Suunto in the foreseeable future.
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@RiphRaph More or less the same here. To me that platform was very important and discovering that key features were going away really disgusted me. I changed watch last Christmas but I still keep my SSWHRBaro (my 7 year old son has been using it lately).
To me the 30% discount is disrespectful given that you can most times find Suunto watches cheaper elsewhere, it cannot be used for Christmas and I see it as an implicit admission of guilt towards older watch models, some owned by long time Suunto advocates. But that’s my personal view and others may not share it.
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@jsuarez said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:
it cannot be used for Christmas
Are you sure? Is this a geographical thing? Suunto (UK) “VALID PERIOD” = “Oct 1, 2020 to March 31, 2021 … except for period from Nov 20 to Dec 1, 2020”. That’s, what, three weeks online shopping in December 'til Xmas?
It is absolutely an hilariously obvious demonstration of insincerity to suspend the “loyalty offer” at all. How many ~51% discounted units did they actually expect to sell to offer-claimers, and at what actual loss, during those 11 days? The value of “loyalty” and “appreciation” (or your postulated “guilt”) can probably be calculated against that estimate.
However, and it’s hard to give Suunto credit for doing this deliberately given the order in which announcements were made, the in-guarantee Sp/A/T crowd will now not actually be screwed until the new year. Which, given the recent removal of MC references from spec sheets, probably means fewer Sp/A/T-owners as the earlier purchasers roll out of Suunto obligation.
So there’s that. Happy Holidays from Suunto Claus?
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We have decided, in order to ensure the best possible consumer experience for all our community, that we will postpone the planned changes to Movescount App, SuuntoLink, and Moveslink2 until 2021.
Wow! What a news! They are listing only the syncing possibilities (apps). Maybe the MC web service will stay for longer too?
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Regarding my contact to Suunto both by email and facebook regarding ambit 3 dropping futures (before movescount continuity till 2021) here was the response:
Dear André Faria,thank you for reaching out.
Digital services do evolve, by their very nature. It’s not really a matter of business, it’s a matter of being able to ensure that we stay up to date with the changes and trends of the digital world, and work to offer an overall better experience to the whole of our community and the majority of our users, in the present and in the future.
The features Suunto app has now and will have in the future are based on user feedback from the majority of our users.
We worked to make sure that, even with the inevitable changes that evolving digital demands require to our services, customers with Ambit, Ambit2 and Ambit3 watches could continue to use their trusted devices. We also know, though, that many people want to follow the developments of digital services and technology, and might be interested in upgrading to a newer device: for them, and in additions to our efforts enabling the use of older models, we have created the loyalty offer.
As for the issue with ascent and descent on Movescount is not due to any change on our part - Mapbox (the map provider) changed their API for access to data, and this broke the altitude element (actually, to be thorough, the change broke the entire map integration. To recover it, a quick fix was found that allowed us to connect to Mapbox to draw routes but damaged the altitude element). Considering that the web service - as a device manager for Ambit, Ambit2, Ambit3 and Traverse - is here to stay, our team is currently trying to find out what the best solution for this is. It’s taking longer than we would like and hoped to deliver.
Let’s hope for solutions to come. Although there are no dates at least there is a will and openness.
Hopping for the best and meanwhile using movescount.
