Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

freeheeler

@MiniForklift
not sure if you’re using a chest belt instead? if so, WHR is switched off automatically.
I think too settings should be stored, unless the backlight. sometimes I run at day, sometimes at night…

Jonathan Schwarz

@TELE-HO is that confirmed that the watch shuts off WHR if chest strap is paired? That was something I always wondered - say if the chest connection was lost for a period - would it switch to WHR instead. I always turn WHR offjust to be safe

isazi

@Jonathan-Schwarz for what I know, the OHR is shut down if you have another heart rate monitor paired. And I don’t think it does turn on again if you lose the connection.

Brad_Olwin

@Jonathan-Schwarz @MiniForklift @TELE-HO I too think the start menu is way overly complicated and I have been telling Suunto this every possibility I have. So have other testers. We are there with you. Hopefully Suunto will do something to change that, I just don’t know how difficult those changes are to implement. I suspect they are not trivial.

MiniForklift

@TELE-HO No chest strap, I don’t use any HR. Notice that it’s always searching for it when I’m waiting to start an exercise - maybe there’s somewhere in the watch settings where I can completely turn of HR during exercise?

freeheeler

@MiniForklift
no there is no default setting afaik… it would oversteer the startmenu setting or at least have a conflict.

@Brad_Olwin
…my bet: about one year from now
and it would be trivial, but let’s pretend it is not

Saketo Nemo

@isazi
Sure? it seems to me that since the last update we can, but I have to try. Not surprisingly, if I’m not mistaken, from the settings you can choose both to use the belt and to activate the whr.
obviously in default it goes on belt, but if it loses the connection now, by activating the appropriate flag, it changes to whr.
It seems to me that it was a function present in a Coros watch and required in this forum.
But again, I could be wrong. My memory is not so strong

Maryn

@Saketo-Nemo this would be nice for longer runs for some user which are using for example polar oh1

isazi

@Saketo-Nemo would be terrible for a OHR sensor, especially one on the wrist, try to get a lock on heart rate mid activity. It could take pretty long, and most probably lock on cadence if you are moving. And it sounds like a nightmare of edge cases, with decisions to take on what to do when the belt is connected again, if it is. The simpler solution, and the one that most companies use as far I can see, is to have memory on the chest sensor itself to compensate for disconnects, so that data can be transferred back to the watch post activity. Of course if the battery dies this does not work, but coin cell operated straps lasts for much longer than a watch.

Anyway, easy to test. Start activity with paired chest strap, remove it, and go away until it disconnects, then check if the leds on the watch are blinking

florin2528

from my side after more than 1.4k km with S9 Baro.

cons:

sleep tracking, was not working properly. Taking movie watching and reading as sleeping. Garmin fenix5 didn’t do that. I’m not using it at all
display: light during evening/night
daily stress(WHR), battery was going low too often
- GPS - less accurate than Ambit2 or phone, this is the most important one for me.
missing shortcut for airplane mode
you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity
WHR not working properly, I would prefer not to show the numbers instead of wrong readings

pros:

well made, robust
good battery life compared with other
navigation - helped me a lot, by loading routes from colleagues, or defining new routes when running in new places.
good information on screen depending on the type of activity
I wouldn’t change it for Garmin, I tried fenix5 and was very bad on battery
nice straps

Suunto issues:

difficult to order accessories in Romania
I like the Suunto app, I would like to have it on the web also

Cheers,
Florin

Maryn

@florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity

yes you can.

freeheeler

@Maryn
maybe he did not do the firmware update?

Maryn

@TELE-HO maybe yes.

In latest sw version time is shown if you set more than 3 fields on the screen.
Of course, you can also put time(hour) as a seperate data field.

Maryn

@florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

less accurate than Ambit2

By the way, if you say that Ambit 2 has better gps then is highly likely that you are running an old software

Brad_Olwin

@florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

from my side after more than 1.4k km with S9 Baro.

cons:

sleep tracking, was not working properly. Taking movie watching and reading as sleeping. Garmin fenix5 didn’t do that. I’m not using it at all
Florin

This does not happen for me. If you have your normal sleep hours set and autoDnD set I never get sleep counted when reading or watching a movie. If you do not have sleep hours set it might be possible.

zvonejan

@florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity

double tap or bottom button (2 sec)

isazi

Doing an alpine climbing tour this week. The altimeter of the S9b is amazing, I have been sitting on a couple of summits with the watch agreeing with the map, same for huts. On the same group a Fenix 5s (or maybe 6s, but looks more a 5s to me) user got readings far by even 100 meters. And being this the first alpine tour I did with the S9, I’m very very happy.

Bogdan1921

@isazi

I can confirm this. Also, last week I was one day for 9 hours on a hiking tour. When I’ve arrived at the peak of the mountain, the wrote altitude of the peak was exactly the same with the altitude from the watch and I was really impressed

Maryn

@isazi what gps system did you use ? Beidou?

isazi

@Maryn since it became available, I’m always using GPS+Beidou. Maybe GPS alone would be enough, but I’ve had good results with this setup so far and I’m not changing it for now.