Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App

isazi

@francescobaldi the only official information is the one from Suunto. So far we had Ambit support in Suuntolink, so that you can sync routes and configuration from MC to your watch, and activities to SA. Hopefully SA support for Ambits will improve further in the future. But I have the feeling that covid slowed things down.

Prenj

Sorry for being harsh, but to call it a slowdown, there should be some movement. There was none since 2018. So basicly, development for A3P was totally dead for 19 months already.

sartoric

@Prenj
well … suuntolink for ambits doesn’t look as “nothing”, I mean is part of the process

could something more be done ? sure

isazi

@Prenj I meant in general. We used to have lots of beta versions of the app until covid.

Prenj

@sartoric said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj
well … suuntolink for ambits doesn’t look as “nothing”

could something more be done ? sure

LOL. OK, let’s pretend we really got something we didn’t already have

Prenj

@isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj I meant in general. We used to have lots of beta versions of the app until covid.

I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

Mff73

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

I think we begin to understand

francescobaldi

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj I meant in general. We used to have lots of beta versions of the app until covid.

I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

Exactly.
I think that to implement the basic control functions that was in the movescount app in the SA, before discontinuing it sould have been the minimum done.
there are too much holes in this process… I’m sorry

tomhaegler

@Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

ust frustrated because of real

After reading all posts, I’m still confused: do you think we’ll ever see route planning/uploading and sport mode editing in the Suunto App for Ambit 3 Series?! Can’t be that of a problem??!?!

Mff73

@tomhaegler said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

ust frustrated because of real

You quoted me, but not with the whole content. this part of “confusion” is not from me.

Here is the complete thread

@Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

I think we begin to understand

And to answer you question : no idea about suunto plans about A3 and SA.

Prenj

@tomhaegler To be honest, I don’t believe there will be new functionalities in Suunto app for A3P ever. We’d be fools to believe otherwise after year and a half of zero lines of code added for A3P in Suunto app. I’m not happy about it, but that’s what it is. Well competition still thinks that there is a demand for watches that offer what A3P once offered (hint: Garmin Instinct Solar).

isazi

@Prenj so you have access to SA source code? Comments and opinions are one thing, saying that you know what is in the code is a lie.

margusl

@isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj so you have access to SA source code? Comments and opinions are one thing, saying that you know what is in the code is a lie.

While I’d use a different wording (like: “no ambit-related user-visible changes since end of 2018”), I don’t believe @Prenj is too far from truth here. Besides, SA APK is pretty much like an open book with few scribbled pages here and there, meaning that there’s no issues listing what’s in there, though its tricky to point out what’s certainly not there.

Prenj

@isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj so you have access to SA source code? Comments and opinions are one thing, saying that you know what is in the code is a lie.

Yeah I might be wrong, there really might be a bunch of stuff done for A3P under the hood. Sorry for assuming that after 19 months of nothing visible for A3P there. No ability to adjust watch settings, adding routes, poi-s, syncing with movescount… But you are 100% right. I stand corrected. There really might be something there in the code we are not aware of. It’s OK to believe that.

tomhaegler

@Prenj …then my next question would be: would it be possible to develop an own app that could add routes and change sport modes? e.g. I use an aftermarket, user developed firmware on my canon 550d which adds a ton of features

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

Afaik atm there won’t be any support for Bluetooth sync of settings / routes with the SUUNTO app for A3 etc.

There will be a new website and that will sync only with cable and will be enabled only for A3 etc.

I am writting this in order to not raise hopes

If you read the announcements that is also said there. A3 etc will sync only via cable.

Prenj

@tomhaegler said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj …then my next question would be: would it be possible to develop an own app that could add routes and change sport modes? e.g. I use an aftermarket, user developed firmware on my canon 550d which adds a ton of features

Unfortunately Suunto is reluctant to release the necessary protocols to developers outside their company. Guys at OpenAmbit succeeded in developing opensource alternative for moveslink, but they hit the wall for changing settings without movescount web. So I don’t expect there will be anything new.

Prenj

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Afaik atm there won’t be any support for Bluetooth sync of settings / routes with the SUUNTO app for A3 etc.

There will be a new website and that will sync only with cable and will be enabled only for A3 etc.

I am writting this in order to not raise hopes

If you read the announcements that is also said there. A3 etc will sync only via cable.

Thanks for clarifying this at last Dimitrios. Bad news, but at least clear enough.

tomhaegler

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Afaik atm there won’t be any support for Bluetooth sync of settings / routes with the SUUNTO app for A3 etc.

There will be a new website and that will sync only with cable and will be enabled only for A3 etc.

I am writting this in order to not raise hopes

If you read the announcements that is also said there. A3 etc will sync only via cable.

Thanks for clarifying this at last Dimitrios. Bad news, but at least clear enough.

at least we know. Settings by cable is disappointing but not the end. At least I can change settings - I don’t do it often. But still…so this means: the movescount website will be shut down - when exactly? because route planning / gpx import will disappear as well then…

Prenj

@tomhaegler

Movescount web is not exactly going away. They said it’s only going to lose analysis part and eventually change it’s name. You will still be able to use it to change settings and upload routes and POI-s. For how long… Well who knows.

For me, losing bluetooth sync for settings and routes is a deal breaker. I often change routes and settings while outside and I’m certainly not going to carry my laptop with me just to do this. Looking for alternatives right now… I gladly supported Suunto for being European company and for built quality they are offering with their lineup but since Anta acquired them, things are going in direction I don’t like anymore. Oh well…