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    Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
      Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos always good to hear that new firmware is being tested and its results are promising. Awesome!

      S9PP 2.50.28

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      • Brad_OlwinB Offline
        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

        Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

        I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

        Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

        I can confirm way @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos as I have been Field-testing the new firmware. We both agree the GPS is much better.

        Vector/T6c/Vertical 2 Ti

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          azeanic
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          Can confirm the latest GPS firmware is a lot better than previous iterations. I’m using Stryd for distance, so not sure about actual distance accuracy. But tracks are a lot cleaner and closer to where I’m actually running.

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
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            @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

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            • MarynM Offline
              Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos let’s hope that this version stays as a release canditate.

              Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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              • surfboomerangS Offline
                surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I haven’t seen the speed wobbles in my running activities. Only on other profiles. I think it has something to do with a different log algorithm in the running profiles.

                Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                OnePlus Nord 4

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                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                  last edited by

                  @surfboomerang we don’t use anything different (algo) between types.

                  It can be though the way you use your arms

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                    freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                    like “shocks” from waves and fusedspeed becomes confusedspeed?

                    living sideways

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                      Shrek3k
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                      I am ready for an improved GPS (+ ×) software, too.
                      I a challenging environment (weekdays I am running in Berlin, approx 30% of the route(s) between rather solid and high houses) pure GPS and/or GPS+ Galileo/Glonass are quite often a real disaster and only offering a ‘wobbling’ track. And it does not even help to activate the exercise type and wait for a few minutes after the position has been found(yes, minutes, which currently is not too cozy 😉 )

                      using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling through the northern german "wilderness", and wherever else I have the chance to do so
                      OS - Android 16/Pixel Pro 7

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                      • Fenr1rF Offline
                        Fenr1r @freeheeler
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                        @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                        confusedspeed

                        Bravo. Better than any Friday deserves.

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
                          last edited by

                          @TELE-HO GPS no. Speed distance yes though 😄 Only if GPS is off / lost / bad.

                          There is also confusedTrack BTW 😄

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                            nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Interesting, I was convinced that there is different GPS algo for different sport modes… open water and cycling, for example…

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nseslija
                              last edited by

                              @nseslija well I said something wrong.

                              For cycling/running no diff.

                              For open water only yes there is a special mode.

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                                nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, tnx

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                                  zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                                  @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

                                  Can you share this FW? I take all responsibility myself if anything goes wrong.

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                                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
                                    last edited by

                                    @zvonejan if it was with only the GPS FW updated yes.

                                    Unfortunately it’s debug build and I can’t. Let aside that they check FW versions vs SN

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                                    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                      Łukasz Szmigiel
                                      last edited by Łukasz Szmigiel

                                      What can I say - if conditions are right, Suunto 5 is spot on. Apparently two layers of longsleeve covering the watch don’t do much if GNSS signal is strong.

                                      But - according to Trimble GNSS Planning there were between 8 and 9 GPS satellites visible and between 6 and 7 Galileo satellites and DOP was very low.

                                      Today’s run with GPS + Galileo:

                                      Open area:
                                      Notice top right path being off - I actually run off the embankment and the track is very accurate and consistent.
                                      Screenshot_20200124-192318.png

                                      Mixed park / open / low buildings:
                                      Screenshot_20200124-192414.png

                                      An old park with plenty of tall trees:
                                      Screenshot_20200124-192339.png

                                      S9PP 2.50.28

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                                        Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                        @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                                        S5 BARO should be a killer.

                                        SSU (retired), SV1, SV2
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                                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                        Android + Galaxy S205G

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                                          stromdiddily Gold Members @Mff73
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                                          @Mff73 was hoping that would be the s7. I think a Baro version would kill S9 imo

                                          Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                                          User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV2 :)

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                                            nseslija Bronze Member @stromdiddily
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                                            @stromdiddily S9B with external antenna… my dream watch…

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