Zone alerts on Spartan Sport

[RiphRaph]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos OK, just tested it with the current settings. It’s beeping to tell me to speed up (I’m sitting at my desk but I’ve got a “Run” in progress) and there may or may not be a vibration going on at the same time; it’s so brief and so weak that it’s hard to tell. Unfortunately, the tone itself is so quiet that it wouldn’t take much ambient noise to drown it out completely! It wouldn’t stand a chance in traffic noise and even the slightest sound of wind in my ears outside would make it inaudible.

So for practical purposes trying to set target intensity zones on this watch is a complete waste of time.

[freeheeler]

@RiphRaph said in Zone alerts on Spartan Sport:

So for practical purposes trying to set target intensity zones on this watch is a complete waste of time

I don’t think so because the watch still has a screen next to vibration and sound…
I agree, when I was cycling the other day I missed the beep and vibration, too. But for running it is noticable (assuming SSS has the same setup as S9?!).
If Suunto would make the beep louder you’ll get a nice tinnitus while running or getting notified in the office… unless you can set a volume

[RiphRaph]

@TELE-HO Oh good point – after all, we all run with our eyes glued to the watch display every second of the way, right?. Apparently the SSS has a less efficient vibration than the S9, because it’s literally imperceptible in the case of zone alerts.

I wonder what Suunto was thinking? The vibration for manual laps is nice and long, so one does feel it – but that’s the one case where any kind of alert is barely necessary because I already know it’s happening; after all, I’m pushing a button to set a manual lap in the first place. For all the cases where one will probably not be looking at the watch, they make it so short that it registers too faintly or not at all. (I’ve lost count of the number of times I haven’t felt a vibration at the start of an activity to signify HR and GPS lock, for example.)

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@RiphRaph perhaps ask for repair. The vib at least at start (GPS lock) for me it’s noticeable on SSS. Now of course different people etc. Not sure 100% if I am right.

[Bulkan]

@RiphRaph in which sports do you use the watch and miss the vibration?

[freeheeler]

@RiphRaph
it’s for sure not the best to run and only stare at the screen of course. that’s why I still need to get used to my 7 fields screen setup
But I do feel when I start taking it too easy, quick look at the dial indicator and I see that I’m getting out of a specific zone…
But we’ve discussed this vibration topic recently in other threads and I would generally ask for more customization of several things. In this case for a vibration pattern. The vibration is the same strength as for the lap but much much shorter and hence barely noticeable… I don’t even know if the motor gets to a constant speed or if acceleration and deceleration ramp are “connected”?!

[RiphRaph]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I’m pretty sure I’ve seen criticism of the SSS’s faint vibration on at least one sports tech reviewer’s site, so I think this may not be a repair issue. I think the impulse is just so short that it barely has time to become discernible before it cuts off. @TELE-HO is probably onto something by saying it needs to be customisable.

[RiphRaph]

@Bulkan Running.

[RiphRaph]

@TELE-HO “it’s for sure not the best to run and only stare at the screen of course. that’s why I still need to get used to my 7 fields screen setup
But I do feel when I start taking it too easy, quick look at the dial indicator and I see that I’m getting out of a specific zone…”

My issue is more at the other end of the spectrum; I often don’t notice when I’m going too hard and drifting into the next higher zone. By the time it occurs to me to check, I’ll be five beats over and have no way of telling how long I’ve been outside my target zone.

I think you’re right that it should be customisable. The motor likely isn’t as weak as it seems and if we could set all vibration signals to a longer duration everything would be fine. The manual lap signal, certainly, seems quite strong enough – but it’s also a lot longer than any of the automatic ones.

[freeheeler]

@RiphRaph said in Zone alerts on Spartan Sport:

I’m going too hard and drifting into the next higher zone

I know this from going uphills… I’m usually over the limit I aim for

Does Spartan also have this zone type screen? I have not used them yet but could imagine they help instantly to tell how long you’ve spent in each zone… do you know what screen I mean?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@TELE-HO it has also

[freeheeler]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

[RiphRaph]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos What screen is this exactly? I know there’s a zone summary that shows up after you complete a workout. Is there another one for while the workout is still in progress?

[sartoric]

@RiphRaph
It’s the intensity one you can see up here.
It should be already available in eg. default run sport mode

[RiphRaph]

@sartoric Yeah, thanks. That was posted a fraction of a second before I hit “Submit” on my question!

[sartoric]

@RiphRaph
Yep, I had that suspicion

[RiphRaph]

@sartoric Yes, it’s available in the Basic running mode. But I can’t see any way of adding it to any of my custom run modes.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@RiphRaph if you use the Suunto app sport mode customization should be there.

I think this is missing from MC sport mode customization

[RiphRaph]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos OK, that would explain it. I haven’t used SA for sport modes so far because I understand that would lock me out of additionally syncing to Movescount on the web.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@RiphRaph that is correct. So then please don’t use it if you depend on MC