Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?

freeheeler

I know this SP (Suunto Plus) is almost completely forgotten again as nobody knows the purpose of it despite Strava effort… (or did anyone hear anything about it recently?? ok, to be fair, it’s a calm time of the year…!)

showing a compass and a barometric trend (independent from altivalues) could be something for SP… or simply another screen within an activity but I don’t want to judge about the complexity of that request

A Former User

@TELE-HO said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

I know this SP (Suunto Plus) is almost completely forgotten again as nobody knows the purpose of it despite Strava effort… (or did anyone hear anything about it recently??

That is because SuuntoPlus is mostly a marketing trick at this point. Everyone would be really excited about it if there was an API, a watch emulator to test SuuntoPlus apps locally, and a SuuntoPlus store to submit and share apps with the rest of the community. That would explode functionality of the watch. Without any of that SuuntoPlus is completely dependent on Suunto developers adding new apps, and that isn’t much different than Suunto developers just adding new features directly to the firmware without SuuntoPlus.

tiftif

@silentvoyager said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

But you can measure your daily steps and calories with the watch! Aren’t you excited about that?
/sarcasm
Oh yessss, this has changed my life !!!
/sadness

@silentvoyager said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

Another feature useful for mountaineering which is missing in Spartan and S-line is building a route from an activity in the log on the watch. That would be useful, for example, to bail-out from a camp in a whiteout by backtracking approach recorded on a previous day.
I thought we could do that, but you’re right. You can only use bread crumbs mode in the activity, hence the day you arrive at the camp, not the following day.

What is most frustrating is that it is “just” a question of software, and could be easily done if “apps” of modules could be developped by third parties…

Is there any way to request changes or updates on SSU or is it too late in the Spartan development cycle?

Egika

The better watch for mountaineering is the Ambit 3.
It can do what you expect and is still part of the current watch lineup of Suunto.
Looking at the Spartan Ultra as an advanced mode that can do everything previous models could and more, is wrong.
SSU is targeting a different user group.

tiftif

@Egika yes I know. The Ambit 3 was the watch I was targeting at first as it also had a better battery life, but the doubts of having it supported after the end of movescount at the time didn’t help to make the decision and I went for the Spartan instead

Brad_Olwin

@tiftif I found my SSU quite accurate for altitude without the need for adjustment. I do not think that you need to do an adjustment. Although you cannot see the barometric trend, the Storm Alert will function. The compass will not display but if you have a route loaded you will get a North indicator.

fejker

@Brad_Olwin no need for a route to display north … there is the breadcrumb display that does that - yes, not a compass but still the next best thing.

tiftif

@fejker @Brad_Olwin thanks both of you for the alternatives.
Just a shame they are just alternatives and not the real thing…

Storz

@A-Former-User said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

@TELE-HO said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

I know this SP (Suunto Plus) is almost completely forgotten again as nobody knows the purpose of it despite Strava effort… (or did anyone hear anything about it recently??

That is because SuuntoPlus is mostly a marketing trick at this point. Everyone would be really excited about it if there was an API, a watch emulator to test SuuntoPlus apps locally, and a SuuntoPlus store to submit and share apps with the rest of the community. That would explode functionality of the watch. Without any of that SuuntoPlus is completely dependent on Suunto developers adding new apps, and that isn’t much different than Suunto developers just adding new features directly to the firmware without SuuntoPlus.

Exactly this! A Suunto Plus app and development from independent developers would be awesome and would rocket Suunto forward in terms of usability of the 9 etc

freeheeler

@Storz
OMG did silentvoyager made a Suunto Exit?

Bulkan

@TELE-HO Sadly looks like it.

isazi

@Bulkan

sartoric

@Storz
Actually the objective of SuuntoPlus afair is to give to third party a way to develop watch “app” that can access any of the suunto watch sensors data.
So it shouldn’t be bounded to Suunto’s development

Of course it’s not for public/final user.

But I’m a poor spartan user, so … no Plus for me

Storz

@TELE-HO said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

@Storz
OMG did silentvoyager made a Suunto Exit?

@TELE-HO said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

@Storz
OMG did silentvoyager made a Suunto Exit?

I don’t get it…

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@TELE-HO yes apparently due to my reply “that I bitt hard” on his “result” of the s9 being the worse in accuracy and to pat our selfs in the back. I think… We lost one sir.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Storz one of our “locals” deleted his account apparently

Storz

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto Spartan Ultra - How to display informations during activity recording?:

@Storz one of our “locals” deleted his account apparently

I see. That is too bad, this is a great forum!

freeheeler

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
it appeared to me, as you described in your answer back then, he has fantastic ideas but was too hard requesting and waiting for stuff to come… maybe a “weakness” resulting from knowing how to do it without having access to optimize it…
maybe one day he will re-join

Brad_Olwin

@Storz @TELE-HO @Bulkan @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @isazi Too bad about silentvoyager, maybe I will try to find him on Garmin forums and encourage him to stay active. He made good points that were based on his observations. Speaking of Garmin, most of my coached group has them, we did 1.62 km (1 mile) intervals today and I showed my coach and a couple of others how my zones show on the perimeter on my screens. We were discussing HR during the run, I said I did not know mine but knew I was in zone 2. The answer was wow, I have to figure out how to do that. I believe the Forerunners, maybe Fenix can do this on the HR screen but not on others. My point is a main one for Suunto UI, which I find has a lot of thought going into how the feature would be used, not merely whether a feature is there or not. I have 3 fields on my interval screen (I use the lap button not the Intervals) Pace, Lap Distance and Lap Duration. The HR I can see on the perimeter zones so I don’t need a number.

isazi

@Brad_Olwin Garmin has a smaller gauge you can add to the top or bottom field, but I agree the Suunto UI here is better, and supports power or speed zones too.