Suunto 5

Brad_Olwin

@suzzlo The Training Plans are really quite clever, as workouts are focused on intensity and time, which allows you to do them indoor or outdoor, on a bike, running, swimming, etc! The intensity is HR based but there is guidance during the workout to achieve the stated goal and intensity, to either speed up or slow down. At the end of the workout you get feedback on the goals. For an individual that likes working out, wants to stay in shape or improve fitness it is great! The super additions are you get the Nav features of Spartan/S9 and get estimated VO2 max, which will show up in SA too. I really like this watch and could use it for a lot of my exercises. I have used it extensively for running and ski mountaineering. The altitude is limited by GPS and not barometric but it does a good job with GPS altitude. In Navigation you can see the route and the altitude profile page as is present on the Spartan/S9. The watch is light and I think because of that OHR is better for me on S5 than the S9.

Brad_Olwin

@mountainChris that would be the last one they leaked…

suzzlo

@Brad_Olwin no barometer, I won’t make that mistake again.
Adaptative trainning plans plus recovery… Suunto 7 gets points!!!

Bulkan

@Brad_Olwin Training Peaks plan in the Suunto 5?? What? Where?

NicolasP

@suzzlo I am waiting for this one too

Brad_Olwin

@Bulkan None from TP…hopefully these will be implemented across all devices as Dimitrios has hinted.

Brad_Olwin

@suzzlo I understand you. The compactness of the 5 is nice. It does well without a barometer, I can show examples. I think it might do less well with small changes, my runs rarely have less than 300m.

suzzlo

@Brad_Olwin I experienced really bad altitude values with my Spartan Sport Wrist. Always around 50% less than expected. I have a hilly route around my house of 15k +350m (road), a never get more than 160-170. I have compared with my wife’s vivoactive 3, with Runalyze, Strava, Gaia, SA route planner…
I have send to Vantaa, but their answer was: “all test performed well and it’s no baro unit. Your watch has been send back”.
So I will never forget to add baro to my checklist (even than I’m not trail oriented)

BR

GingerBeardMan

@Brad_Olwin Thanks for the reply, sorry if you had to repeat yourself.
I don’t understand the argument of not wanting the option of having features on the watch, if you’re not interested then you can ignore it or disable it.
Sleep tracking and all HR tracking is there with the option to disable.

zhang965

@GingerBeardMan said in Suunto 5:

@Brad_Olwin Thanks for the reply, sorry if you had to repeat yourself.
I don’t understand the argument of not wanting the option of having features on the watch, if you’re not interested then you can ignore it or disable it.
Sleep tracking and all HR tracking is there with the option to disable.

Yes, it’s a weird thing I saw in the forum.

I met another said almost the same , they don’t want to add these features to suunto 9.

I don’t understand their logic, not wanting the option of features?

We, normal people, if we don’t need it, then we don’t use it, nothing wrong to keep it as options.

@zhang965 If “I” don’t need something, then no one should need it too.
Also when next year s9version2 comes out with these features, then what?

zhang965

@Yannis-Belouris said in Suunto 5:

@zhang965 If “I” don’t need something, then no one should need it too.
Also when next year s9version2 comes out with these features, then what?

Buy a s9 verions2

Bogdan1921

@zhang965

We already talk about s9 2nd version, when the first is far away to be stable. Who will buy the second version and why the things ar going so fast? I can’t undestand…

Saketo Nemo

@Chindris-Bogdan
We are only making assumptions based on nothing, sleep peacefully

Bogdan1921

@Saketo-Nemo

I can expect surprise, so I can’t sleep

zhang965

@Chindris-Bogdan said in Suunto 5:

@zhang965

We already talk about s9 2nd version, when the first is far away to be stable. Who will buy the second version and why the things ar going so fast? I can’t undestand…

The 2nd version will not be realized too soon, but it’s the mainly strategy of nowadays: build new model asap; develop the model after the release, you said S9 is far away to be stable, how about Spartan? the Spartan ultra is yet to be stable even today!

(and you might have a mess of products name, for example thinkpad X1, 7 generations shared the same name )

the good news is, all new suunto watch will be established in a united system, so for software development, it should be easy than before.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

Hi all Suunto watches have the same software except different firmware depending on the HW (eg GPS of Spartan via S9).

If s9 becomes stable etc Spartan becomes as well.

zhang965

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

Hi all Suunto watches have the same software except different firmware depending on the HW (eg GPS of Spartan via S9).

If s9 becomes stable etc Spartan becomes as well.

dulko79

@Brad_Olwin Thank you for detailed answer. I have two more questions, are workouts (defined by intensity and duration) also structured ? For example, is running activity divided into warm up phase, main phase and cool down phase or is there only one phase ? After finishing all workouts during week, do you get any feedback regarding fitness improvement, like text summary or just fitness values - VO2max ? On the watch or in SA ?

Frédéric Fiandino

@cosmecosta hello, first of all sorry for the late response.
I partly share your analysis, the bottom of my thought is rather directed to the general feeling of users. Everyone agrees on the quality of the hardware (except SST, another debate …), but you can not deny that a large number of users are, today, frustrated by the software, that he is embarked or deported. The support for the Ambit series and its future, the intervals, the brief analysis offered by the application, the abandonment of movescount.com … I will not redo the list.
Indeed everything is not bad, far from it, some subject subject advance, others not.
Very honestly I am very happy with my Spartan Sport WHR, but having had an Ambit 3 before, I never managed to part with this feeling of frustration. I am surely not the only one.
No one can say that the Suunto ecosystem is now mature, yet new watches come out with new functionality and they are not sold by crownfunding, it is not about funding a project. Suunto knows the market, to an expertise and an experience however since the Spartan range it looks like newbies.
To end up positive, I love my Spartan so much that I do not intend to change it and sincerely hope that Suunto will be able to reduce the accumulated backlog and that it will regain the confidence that has been eroded over time.
Good day to all