Race 3S & Race 3 rumours

aiv4r

@brave_dave i see you still do not get what I am trying to say. Therefore I sign off from this discussion. Maybe it is my english maybe it is your unvilingless to understend different point of view. Not sure what kind of software development you are used to, but usually there is a huge backlog and a lot of prioritization involved, and it is mostly impossible to solve all bugs all the time.

2b2bff

@brechtvb said:

this forum is full of people the battery duration went downhill, the Suunto HR Bluetooth sensor freely disconnects (I have myself), and it cannot reliably connect to bicycle sensors available in the market.

Ok, I get your point. I also think the software experience could be better. More stable.

In my books, Suunto could take a day or two to just fix all the translation oddities. This alone would make a much better experience…

But, given the BT issue is fixed, the random crashes as well, the Race S is perfectly priced, IMHO…

brechtvb

@2b2bff yes, if it connects to Bluetooth properly, it is leaps forward, the battery decline is not to die from.bluetooth disconnect is just a job stopper.

@aiv4r in this forum people wrote that Suunto support told them Bluetooth issues are not going to be solved “in short time”.

So the bug is there, it’s bothering a lot of people, they are basic sport watch qualities, and Suunto said they are not going to bother.

Tami999

Guys stay in topic please. Everytime I see new post, Iam curious if there’s any new info already about Race 3

aiv4r

@brechtvb i am not saying it is not real. People should rechout to support, see what their options are, see if they can get a watch replaced. People here just trying to help, none of the people here are working in supporting users. There are few people who try to relay info to Suunto, but that is it.

Sorry for offtopic!
Re the topic. I wonder if we can get Run 2 with actuals offline maps or it will stay budget option for road runners. I would like to see new FW with the maps. It is still not clear what the Suunto plans are for 2 FW versions are they gonna keep developing both and for how long. That is the big question in my book.

brechtvb

@aiv4r replacing watches are not going to solve Bluetooth issues that Suunto already declared to be of no priority to them.

2b2bff

@aiv4r the Run is Suunto’s attempt to broaden their road runner reception. So, it has to be cheap enough to consider instead of a Garmin and this will naturally limit the things it can do…

aiv4r

@brechtvb lol you get that it can be done in paralel? Not all watches has that problem. Focus on what you can control - dealing with supoport. You cannot control Suunto fixing/not-fixing bugs.

@2b2bff yeah, but you never know, that might change, also FW replacement on Race series should happen at some point I do not see how it makes sense to develop 2 separate FW

GratefulDeadpan

@2b2bff but it does quite a few things that the flagships don’t. I cannot imagine that is cost effective for Suunto and it is just plain confusing.

I would really like to see Suunto scrap the old OS and continue with just the Run platform instead as I believe that experience is a lesser user experience. Actually returned my V2 because the overall feeling of using it was so far behind the Run.

Edit: apologies for going OT.

André Faria

@aiv4r said:

@brechtvb lol you get that it can be done in paralel? Not all watches has that problem.

@2b2bff yeah, but you never know, that might change, also FW replacement on Race series should happen at some point I do not see how it makes sense to develop 2 separate FW

it may be related to hw compatibility…
maybe race 3/3s will unify that firmware with run2…just a wild guess.
Very curious to see

aiv4r

@André-Faria that would make perfect sense, but I do not see enough improvement in Run FW yet, so it could replace Race series. But maybe smth is cooking, would be nice.

André Faria

@aiv4r again these are only my wild guesses…
Maybe Run was a experiment with compatible hardware but cheap enough to sell cheap and so not much investment in firmware or even hardware that is not 100% compatible with race features (due to price gap).

Maybe I am exagerating, but on Suunto story there was always a bit of “let’s make the best of this platform” and when they get to a limit (my guess!) they change…and yeah sometimes features are not "ported"or support becomes more focused on bug fixing than new features
Ambit to Spartan => if I recall correctly it missed some swim features
Spartan to 9 => great evolution feature wise and support wise
9 to 9 peak/race/vertical/race s , race 2,vertical 2?

On all these switches, the watches that were launched later had the impression of being “less supported”, but the reality was that earlier watches on the same platform had meaninful updates (ex: 9 peak vs 9 baro).

Depending what happens soon the story may repeat. Let’s see
Honestly with garmin it is not much different, except that their watches have more features we kinda notice less.

brechtvb

@André-Faria it has nothing to do with hardware compatibility, HR is read well, then connection drops, no more HR.

They are pure software issues.

brechtvb

@aiv4r but they do control me not getting what we paid for.

To add: they clearly admitted to users here: “not going to fix that”.

johann.fuehrer

@SamppaP said:

@OutdoorMan this is what Suunto said in their Instagram post today. Talking about “new products”

To get back to the topic again, what about the new products they talk at the UTMB, is there new Race 3/3s in sight now…? Or some other product news?

aiv4r

@johann.fuehrer not sure if anybody were there in this forum. Bus as far as we know Run 2 for sure is coming. Race 3 and Race 3S also seems to be coming at some point. Everybody were hoping for at least one of them over the UTMB weekend, but we got nothing.

Tieutieu

French reviewer Jerome from blog cardio gps has published a video during utmb in which he talks about the brands he has met and their future products.
About Suunto he mentions a run 2 and a srs3