Gustin is now available in the Suunto app

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@v.sacre interesting idea. However:

1. There’s safe already.
2. Too much in case of S+ is no good
3. You can unload S+ and load different one during the workout so there’s no need to have a one-app-fits-all

[MdzOtt]

I like the wind direction arrow the best. I’ll have to use it during a real exercise to see how well it works. But I see it’s potential for cycling (to avoid head on wind) and sailing.

Of course, the issue is always where from the weather data comes. Unfortunately, usually, it is not overly granular.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@MdzOtt said:

But I see it’s potential for cycling (to avoid head on wind)

I’m glad that you find this useful as this was my initial thought behind the dynamic arrow. Why think about directions if we can compute it from sensors and weather data and visualise easily.

I’ve tested red/green marks on opposite directions (head/tail wind) but it was too complex and problematic with colour coding on current vs forecast.

So in current version it’s just one arrow for the wind direction relative to the user. Also, I’m using fused direction, so it behaves in the same way as in the map/navigation. Compass when stationary and GPS while above ~ 2 km/h.

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel said:
Also, I’m using fused direction, so it behaves in the same way as in the map/navigation. Compass when stationary and GPS while above ~ 2 km/h.

It’s a great idea and works great for me when I’m not moving.

But the wind direction arrow doesn’t seem to move at all/align with the wind direction no matter how much I rotate my hand/watch while cycling. I’m not sure if this is a bug or what?!

I am using the original Race.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen this is how fused direction works. If you’re moving, direction is taken from GPS heading, not from compass. Compass is used when stationary.

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel said:

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen this is how fused direction works. If you’re moving, direction is taken from GPS heading, not from compass. Compass is used when stationary.

I don’t exactly understand how fused direction works or is supposed to work.

But I thought the idea of the blue arrow is to indicate the direction from where the wind comes.

If I’m on the bike and check the arrow then the direction of the arrow is fixed, i.e., if I rotate my hand 90 degrees then the arrow also rotates 90 degrees meaning that the arrow now indicates that the wind is coming from a completely different direction. Basically, the arrow doesn’t reflect the actual wind direction.

Maybe I’m missing something and that is the intended behavior when moving?! Only when I’m stationary, does the arrow reflect the actual wind direction no matter in what direction I rotate the watch.

[duffman19]

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen said:

Maybe I’m missing something and that is the intended behavior when moving?!

When you are moving, it is assumed that the top of the watch (the 12 o’clock position) is your direction of movement, so rotating the watch will not affect the position of the arrow.

This is the same way it works when viewing the map or breadcrumb trail. When stationary, rotating the watch aligns it with the compass direction. When moving, the watch aligns with the direction of travel and disregards any wrist rotation.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen when you’re stationary, the direction comes from the compass, so moving your hand has effect on the arrow. When you’re moving past 2 km/h, the direction is locked to the GPS vector of your movement, so moving your hand has no effect on the arrow (but when you change direction of your travel, you’ll see it). It’s the same as in the map / navigation view.

[duffman19]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel Haha! We were writing the same thing at the same time. Sorry I jumped in.

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

Thanks both of you for explaining!

The requirement that you need to keep the watch aligned with the direction of travel was unknown to me (I never use the maps)

On a road bike, I usually check the watch at a 30 degree angle to the direction I’m going so I either need to change that habit or make the correction in my head Either way I am happy that I now know how it works!