Race S2 -> release?
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@Steven-Hambleton of course, thst is how I and the people I know who has Suunto does structured workouts, easy and simple.
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@Egika oh man, watches looks promising, but the AI coach stuff gives me “lost our way” vibes. Might be the end of Suunto for me depending on how well one can hide it and mot get bothered by it.
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@VoiGAS no worries. It’s still rumors and new hardware will be more than just a new name

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@elbee it depends how they add it. If you make MCP access, that is pretty nice and cool and does not really bother anyone. If you push AI to read your metrics and give recomendations and create training plans and etc, that is different level of annoying.
And there is always an option to use the older watch that does not support the newest and “greatest”

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@aiv4r
Yeh, how they implement it makes a lot of difference. Suunto isn’t that good in making things optional by default. For instance, I find morning report completely useless (there is really zero info on it that I need to know first thing in the morning) but I have to dismiss the screen every day. My previous garmin had the same useless morning report, but at least you could disable it in the settings. (luckily I discovered turning of sleep monitoring also turns of morning report)But AI is something else. It’s such a hype and everybody wants to jump on the train. I’m afraid it will be forced on everyone.
But like you said, there is always an older watch. My race s is fine for many years. I also nurture my iPhone 12 mini, because I like the small formfactor.

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@aiv4r yes but you don’t have a way to plan them outside of the app or watch. That’s not enough. With any other suunto watch and entry level watches from other brands you can plan and send them to the watch from outside plataforms like Runna, Intervals or TP.
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@aiv4r yes but you don’t have a way to plan them outside of the app or watch. That’s not enough. With any other suunto watch and entry level watches from other brands you can plan and send them to the watch from outside plataforms like Runna, Intervals or TP.
Except for TP—since it’s unclear what will happen now that it belongs to Garmin. Even so, the future of all training platforms is quite uncertain given the rise of AI.
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@Nelson-Diogo yea I mostly agree that is not enough for some people, but it is also possible. A lot of people use other platforms or coaches to get training plans. I mostly just check what I need/want to do that day and set it up on the watch (if it is intervals or sprints or what ever). Other than that why bother to automate it, I can mostly remember that I have a long run for about 2 hours or smth, not that difficult.

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@Egika if you spread this rumour, I am quite sure that it is misleading

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