Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42)

Vitaly B.

@isazi Is the memory (16 GB for Race steel) the limitation you mentioned? If so, I wonder if Race Titanium will get new maps?
If I understood correctly, there are no other meaningful hardware differences between Race and Race S.

Tomas5

@Tami999 you must update maps to latest version. It is stagged release so maybe you still have old data. Keep suunto app up to date. Newest app will offer update of maps in watch.

Ries22

Just wanted to mention, no problems with the Race 2 after software updaten. HR-zones are kept.

I do have one other thing, I would like to be able to have touch screen music control for some workouts, like for weightlifting for example but no music control while running or cycling. Enabling music control, enables music control for all workouts. Thanks for allowing, touch screen control, in work-out mode.

halajos

@Squirrel I agree. In mountaineering the routes are only approximates, the actual path depends on the current conditions (crevasses).

Prenj

I was not aware there was a difference between the Race and Race s in internal hardware. I thought it was just the case and display. So I was a bit surprised with no new map icons for Race. But I don’t mind it too much. I prepare my POI-s myself before mountain activities anyways. Would be nice to have the altitude displayed on the contour lines tho.

Anyway great update! So many new useful features

HonzaS

@Inge-Nallsson You’re right. Even on Vertical 2, the elevation values could have better visibility, but that’s something you won’t use while running. I’d also appreciate a list of all POI types with switches to enable what I want to display on the map. Also, the main city names (not districts) could be visible even at the lowest 20 km zoom level for better orientation on the map.

HonzaS

@kriskus said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

@sky-runner It could be. But I was reading about instability due to insufficient memory and that made me curious.

It couldn’t be about internal storage, but rather RAM.

sky-runner

@Inge-Nallsson said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

But, on my Suunto Race S these new Elevation Labels on the Contour Lines are practically invisible. I see the lighter area surrounding the label, but the numbers themselves are undiscernable without a jewelers loupe/magnifying lens.

I wouldn’t be able to see these numbers too. A good experiment is to use a zoom tool in the browser window until the size of the picture that shows the watch screen becomes about the same size as the watch screen when you look at it during an activity. Yes, I have to agree that the numbers are completely indiscernible.

Egika

@sky-runner said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

@Tieutieu said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

Touchscreen to navigate from screen to screen !
WOW !!!

This one I am not going to use for sure - not compatible with rain or long sleeves getting wet from sweat. But I see how a lot of people will like this feature. Hopefully it is configurable!

yes, it is. You can select “touch on”, “map only” or “touch off”

Egika

@sky-runner said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

Maximum map detail at 500 m zoom level

This makes me happy! I wonder if this translates to 0.2 mi or 0.5 mi zoom level for watches configured in imperial units. It used to be 0.5 mi (800m) in the beginning of 2025. I guess I’ll know soon. Also, Vertical 2 anniversary edition arrives today. I promised that I’ll upgrade my watch when this issue is resolved and I have done that!

I am also very happy about a number of other map and navigation improvements, and mixed units, and a few other things! Very well done Suunto and everyone involved!

when set to miles, the full details are shown up to 0.2mi, which translates to some 330m or so.

Thaler Martin

@Egika
Hatt jemand etwas bemerkt dass die wachpasen erkennung besser geworden ist? Oder wird sie immer noch mit leichtschlaf fast gänzlich mit leichtschlaf ausgepügelt?
Hatte 0min wachphasen die letzte Nacht… bitte um Erfahrungsberichte der ersten Nacht?

sky-runner

@Egika said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

when set to miles, the full details are shown up to 0.2mi, which translates to some 330m or so.

0.2 mi = 322 m, which is unfortunate because that means 36% worse radius of visibility at the zoom level with maximum details. That is still quite a penalty for US users.

Here is an old picture of Garmin Fenix 7X which shows a scale of 800 ft for the quarter of screen, which in Suunto case would translate to 1600 ft scale (for half of the screen):

1600 ft translates to about 500 m, which would fairly closely match the existing zoom level in the metric system.

In metric system zoom levels are 25m, 50m, 100m, 200m, 500m, 1km
But in imperial - 100 ft (30m), 200 ft (61m), 500ft (152m), 0.2mi (322m), 0.5mi (804m)

As you can see, Garmin doesn’t stick to round numbers and that has never been an issue. I don’t think anyone ever complained about that.

snow*

a recap of the Q1

Janne Kallio
Joaquin Pérez

Inge Nallsson

@sky-runner said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

Yes, I have to agree that the numbers are completely indiscernible

When zooming in (on the watch) to a 25 metres view there is a fighting chance to discern them in the “Light” “Map style”. But since the colour used for the numbers is a light brown, it still is a struggle. For my eyes only pure black would meet the visibility criteria. Perhaps with that colour I’d even be able to decode the numbers at a 50 metres zoom…

Inge Nallsson

@HonzaS said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

I’d also appreciate a list of all POI types with switches to enable what I want to display on the map

Yeah! In the small village where I live there seems to be more than 50 (quick sloppy count) public litter bins/trash cans and not much else to contemplate I know visitors to Sweden consider it a tidy and clean environment, but I’d also like to turn off this slightly embarrassing and view-cluttering fact. Coupled with the public parking space labels this overload almost completely obscures the sign for our Healthcare Centre/Clinic.

safari

From the statement regarding version 1, can we understand that it will now receive updates (improvements) instead of upgrades due to hardware limitations?

isazi

@kriskus both, the display is different from the others so it needs ad-hoc development just for one model, and then there are memory/processing limitations (not the storage, the internal memory) that are similar between R1 and V1

isazi

@Vitaly-B. that is the storage, we are talking about the internal memory to store the firmware and do the processing

Vitaly B.

@isazi Got it. Thank you for the clarification!

isazi

@Inge-Nallsson as explained by Pavel, this first version is more focused on providing details in areas where there aren’t many, and it is quite crowded in urban environments. I can imagine that in a future update we will have the ability to select the POIs we want to see.