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    Serious problems with navigation with GPX routes

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      maszop Bronze Member @martintrail
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      @martintrail It’s possible that these are similar cases. I usually don’t have time to mess around with changing screens and viewing data on the watch screen during activity. Today, for testing, I started looking at it more closely and changing screens, map zooms and I’ve observed a lot of these types of breadcrumb errors. I usually rarely see this.

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        maszop Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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        @Brad_Olwin

        For the second, if the watch is syncing to the app and the routes have not synced, you need to wait until syncing is stopped then unsync routes.

        It seems to me that for a few weeks or months now it works differently and often a previously marked route (Use in watch) after unmarking after a few/dozen seconds marks itself again. I did a test synchronization, waited a minute after the synchronization was finished, unmarked the route and after a while it marked itself again. Fortunately, it is not a serious problem.

        For the third, Suunto supports changing a route but the route must be already on the phone. You cannot plan a route on the phone but you can add a planned route to the watch, load and follow the route. There may be something wrong with your route.

        This probably explains the behavior. It seemed to me that the newly created routes were technically the same as the existing routes in SuuntoApp before the activity started.

        So, no bugs here are these are working for most everyone and certainly me. I agree that route syncing could be more robust but the watch can only sync so many things at once.

        Unfortunately, the most serious bug remains - crazy breadcrumbs and freezing of the current location display on the map.

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          kriskus Bronze Member @maszop
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          @maszop And these routes that cannot be deleted - are they created in SuuntoApp or some other place like Strava or komoot? I had a similar case in the past with a route from Strava and it kept reappearing until I removed it in Strava

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            maszop Bronze Member @kriskus
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            @kriskus Mostly from Komoot, but it seems to me that the problem also affected several created in SuuntoApp.
            I used to have this problem with Strava routes, but now it’s probably something with synchronization because it can be deleted eventually, but it requires many attempts. I’ll keep looking at it.

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              larrybbaker
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              I have not seen any of this behavior aside from one time at least a year ago when my location got stuck on an out and back route. Granted I have not used map routes for a few months - but I will give it a test in the next few days.

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                Egika Platinum Member @maszop
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                @maszop which battery mode are you using?

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                  maszop Bronze Member @Egika
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                  @Egika Custom: GPS - best, Touch - disabled, Display timeout - off.
                  Basically all like a Performance mode but with touchscreen disabled.

                  Other options
                  Custom mode hiking.
                  Ruler: disabled.
                  SuuntoPlus (yesterday’s setup): Last km/mile, Weather Insights,
                  OHR.

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                    maszop Bronze Member @maszop
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                    I’ve done some more tests recently.

                    It’s possible to add a completely newly designed or imported to SuuntoApp route to the watch during an activity. It doesn’t have to be saved in SuuntoApp beforehand. There are some problems with synchronization during an activity, but it works eventually.

                    However, there’s a rather annoying bug when changing the route during an activity. During an ascent or descent, you can’t change it on the fly - there’s some conflict with Climb Guidance (black screen with X symbol on the watch). To get around this, you have to completely disable the current route (Breadcrumb option) and only then load a new route.

                    I hope this gets fixed because I usually don’t have time to mess around in the field with such non-intuitive route changes.

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                      maszop Bronze Member @maszop
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                      @maszop Several months have passed, and of course, nothing has changed. The problems remain.

                      It’s still impossible to change the route during ascent or descent.
                      And there are still serious problems with breadcrumb display.

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                        Highlands @maszop
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                        @maszop I have the same problem on my Vertical.

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