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@cosme.costa said in Enough:
@Jaakers Well indeed, garmin and coros use the latest HR sensors.
If you practice any sport other than just recreational around your home, you use a chest band. No watch: Garmin, Coros, Suunto, Polar are not suitable for precise heart rate measurement and setting zones with the help of, for example, a watch.
When you go for a professional zones test, no one measures your heart rate from your watch, but from chest band
The Polar H10 seems to be the best and most accurate one available at the moment.
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@Adrian.S In fact, now a days, you can get your zones using ZoneSense with the chest strap. In my opinion ZoneSense is āthe featureā and a killer for the other brands, only for this the watch is worth the money.
I have the chest strap form Suunto, the Polar H10 and the Coros arm band, in my opinion the most comfortable is the coros armband but of course is not as reliable/quick reacting as the chest strap and not compatible with ZoneSense. Between the Polar H10 and the Suunto smart band I do not see any difference in accuracy and the Suunto is samller and more comfortable than the Polar, besides the Polar is more hard with the battery. In the other hand the Polar can have 2 simultaneous BT connections and one ANT+ whilst the Sunnto only one connection.
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5 more answers and hrv is not reliable anymoreā¦
i think most of us are not serious athletesā¦
but i had the feeling that running in the correct zones was doable with my previous watch and it probably (99% sure) was.
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@cosme.costa said in Enough:
@Jaakers Well indeed, garmin and coros use the latest HR sensors.
If you practice any sport other than just recreational around your home, you use a chest band. No watch: Garmin, Coros, Suunto, Polar are not suitable for precise heart rate measurement and setting zones with the help of, for example, a watch.
When you go for a professional zones test, no one measures your heart rate from your watch, but from chest band
The Polar H10 seems to be the best and most accurate one available at the moment.
Still not following this.
Garmin does a better OHR than suunto, itās a simple as that. All brands provide a chest strap, itās a different type of sensor, more accurate indeed.
But for many people that do some cycling/running/whatever and want a good indiciation of their heart rate, OHR is sufficient, and garmin does it better for less money.
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For whatever reason, Iām one of those who get wrong OHR readings from the Race. For example, it will regularly measure upwards of 90 BPM sitting still, when by manual method I can measure lower than 60 BPM.
With the right expectation, I can accept the error and use a chest monitor during exercise. The watch is so great, I told myself I would do just that and live with the OHR problems. But my biggest issue came with sleep monitoring and confirming cool down.
What is the point of accepting what is wrong generally 85% of the time when the data is used in calculated feedback? Itās an honest question, in the hope someone could give me some insight I didnāt considerā¦ seriously, Iām hoping for a reason to keep using this thing!
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Long time Suunto user here, you guys clearly didnāt use a Suunto 9/9 Baro, THAT was a watch with unreliable OHR.
Agreed with @cosme.costa, since S9P, Suuntoās OHR offering has been getting better and better, now SRS is the best OHR from Suunto (Suunto Run due in a few might take that crown due to less heavy materials
).Anyways, my advise for those seeing bad OHR on Suunto watches while exercising, just try a couple of things:
A) wear it on your less dominant hand (it does make a difference, at least it does on me)
B) wear it at least once finger width above wrist bone like shown below :
Read more tips from Suunto on how to get better OHR readings here.
https://us.suunto.com/pages/how-to-get-more-accurate-wrist-heart-rate-readingsEither way, if you own a Suunto, ZoneSense is such a hook, should have you interested in wearing HR chest strap most of the time
Hope that helps.
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A long time suunto user as well. A few points:
- The oHR is decent should you keep your wrist a bit steady. If the way is to wear thw watch a bit higher or to have a different strap, or by how you clench your fistā¦ itās up to you. I measured this multiple times and is like spot on. Otherwise it does fluctuate, but does it really matter? If it does, wear a chest strap , if it doesnāt , it doesnāt really matter .
- I cannot understand why would anyone care about sleep tracking through a consumer productā¦ You do know that your body was created to give you those indicators right? One may argue that it is advertised it does make a differenceā¦ You are right, most sportsā watches do ā¦ but itās time to get back to reality and understand, itās almost as accurate as coffee fortune telling ā¦
- do you like the watch? use it, you donāt like it and you can afford to replace, do so.
- Do you train for the number of metrics shown or for the training/fun/exercise/experience ? if itās the latter, use your watches for what it was made forā¦ if its the formerā¦ then there are better options that have hundreds of metrics with quite broad usage (not questionable value)
There are people who train as if they are in a hamster wheel , others who do it for fun, others who are professionals etcā¦ I donāt train/exercise to make a living neither do I do it because someone (or a watch) tells me so . I do it because i Like it hence i quite enjoy my vertical
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Iāve been using or testing other brands than Suunto : Garmin, coros, polar
None of any model of any brand works fine on me while exercising.
Iām using HR strap if I want accuracy.
Some of my close friend have excellent accuracy with Suuntos, other with Garmins. Not me.
Its not a disappointment : itās works fine for daily and sleep tracking, and I use hr strap because I want accuracy anyway while exercising and also zonesens. -
What is the point of accepting what is wrong generally 85% of the time when the data is used in calculated feedback? Itās an honest question, in the hope someone could give me some insight I didnāt considerā¦ seriously, Iām hoping for a reason to keep using this thing!
maybe your sensor is defective, owning a Race for more than one year I can say that my HR readings are mostly correct when not doing sport activities. When at sleep also oxygen saturation looks good (while itās always wrong when awake)
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@Adrian.S Just out of curiosity, do you think many Pros and Semi Pros use sleep tracking? From your post it sounds like it is important because without it you will not get some of the readings you were talking about. Suuntoās sleep tracking is a proper dumpster fire for many, me included. Garmin, Coros, Oura, Whoop, they all get 99% of my nights correct, but Suunto? A total guess every night what will happen.
Just curious if a lot of pro athletes use it.
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@cdfreet I too have issues with the sleep tracking. I think this is a common problem for many many Suunto users. It is frustrating. If they could get it to work, I would be in a dedicated marriage with Suunto, but it is such a dysfunctional relationship because of the on and off sleep tracking for zero reason what so ever. I have studied all the ātweetsā that are supposed to make it work to no avail. It is a software problem, not a person problem.
