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    Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3)

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    • pavel.samokhaP Offline
      pavel.samokha
      last edited by pavel.samokha

      https://www.suunto.com/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-ocean-software-updates/

      Staged update starting on September 5th 2024.

      This update brings new features, improvements and bug fixes.

      New features:

      • Provide the compass heading while scuba diving
      • New view for freedive mode to list all dives, depth, dive time and surface times
      • The automatic start for scuba dive will always start with the latest scuba dive mode
      • New options to adjust the safety stop and how TTS is calculated during decompression dives
      • Average gas consumption value in dive summary to be calculated from real-time values during diving

      Improvements and bug fixes:

      • Fixed bug for adjusting brightness during freedive
      • UI improvement to the Gas list
      • Fixed bug that caused an empty dive list in the exercise summary in Snorkeling mode after firmware update
      • Improved calculations for pool, open water and snorkelling distances
      • Fixed issue for showing wrong surface time in scuba history widget
      • Fixed issue for not showing HR belt icon if OHR is disabled in dive pre-dive screen
      • Fixed bug related to showing the gas switch recommendation while descending
      • Updated the surface pressure also when not in water sports to prevent dive modes to start automatically if surface pressure drops
      • Fixed bugs related to not being able to confirm alarms while freediving
      • Added low battery alarm for freedive, mermaiding and snorkeling
      • Changed the arch behaviour for decompression and safety stops
      • Increased the range for surface time duration to show days
      • Improved the dive alarm behaviour to better tackle situations with multiple simultaneous dive alarms
      • Removed additional time added to safety stop if fast ascent happened during diving

      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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      • pavel.samokhaP Offline
        pavel.samokha
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        Also keep in mind that this SW update is focused on Dive features. It doesn’t include any Outdoor features updates

        Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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          diogao13 Bronze Member
          last edited by diogao13

          Just to confirm. Is this the last Suunto app version?

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            TheGlassWolf
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            Finally! Was starting to give up hope! However, it is disappointing to not get the outdoor features that the Race got a while back and now the new watch face features it just got. Does anyone know if there’s a timeline on this? I understand Suunto want to make sure the updates are fully tested for diving safety but it seems like after this update that they can update diving functions and outdoor functions independently of one another?

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              isazi Moderator @TheGlassWolf
              last edited by

              @TheGlassWolf no official timeline, I would bet on Q4 2024, but do not know.

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

              Blog: isazi's home

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              • EzioAuditoreE Online
                EzioAuditore Gold Members @TheGlassWolf
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                @TheGlassWolf The only thing I miss here is the climb guidance, nothing more. I find the Ocean to be stable as rock compared to all the other watches (Suunto or not). I have to admit I have not used the dive features as much as I would like (life being a life) but I will surely do so in the coming months.
                Update: Oh and the computing of Lactate and Vo2Max with belt 🙂

                Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                Suunto Wing

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                  Maximfreediver @EzioAuditore
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                  Guys and where is the list of dives in freediving mode? There is no list after update. Can someone show pics of how it should be?

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                    Maximfreediver @Maximfreediver
                    last edited by

                    I mean before update i can see a list of freedives , but after it disappeared…

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                      danieleridoo
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                      I’m happy to hear that the compass feature was finally included during scuba mode. I have been on the fence about this dive watch.

                      I do however have a problem with the lack of costumization on the dive screen. Is it really true that compass heading and tank pressure cannot be displayed simultaneously on the screen? If not, I will not be getting this watch as continuously scrolling through menus takes too much attention while diving.

                      I would like it if it just showed an arrow towards north around the edge of the screen. Just displaying a heading is not good enough!

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                        ogillot @pavel.samokha
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                        @pavel-samokha said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                        New options to adjust the safety stop and how TTS is calculated during decompression dives

                        Does anyone has some details on that improvement ?

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Maximfreediver
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                          @Maximfreediver If you are talking about in the watch, after an update the logs should still be there but with minimal information. The dives should be present in the app. Have you synced with the app yet? If you had dives on the watch make sure you fully sync before an update or you will lose unsynced exercises. Typically the watch or app will warn you to sync before you update.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            diogao13 Bronze Member @danieleridoo
                            last edited by diogao13

                            @danieleridoo said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                            I do however have a problem with the lack of costumization on the dive screen. Is it really true that compass heading and tank pressure cannot be displayed simultaneously on the screen? If not, I will not be getting this watch as continuously scrolling through menus takes too much attention while diving.

                            It is still an issue for divers using tank pod. Here there is a thread about it:
                            https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11091/update-on-dive-mode-screen

                            @danieleridoo said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                            I would like it if it just showed an arrow towards north around the edge of the screen. Just displaying a heading is not good enough!

                            The new dive compass now need an update to also include a new screen having a “regular compass” and additional info.

                            Something like below examples would be great.
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                            Garmin MK3

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                            Shearwater Teric

                            1000141519.jpg
                            Scubapro G3

                            1000141516.jpg
                            Apple Watch Oceanic Plus

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                            Huawei Watch Ultimate

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                            • Simon MongeauS Offline
                              Simon Mongeau @Brad_Olwin
                              last edited by

                              @Brad_Olwin Even my Olympus TG-5 has a better compass, and its not a compass company!

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                                sacrevache Bronze Member
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                                I dived with the new software today and I wish it had delivered more value to customers.

                                I think it’s safe to say that ALL owners of the Ocean should still count themselves as early adopters. This is a device with great potential that is not matched by its software.

                                The screens are attractive and readable but the user experience remains clunky and unsophisticated*. I am so frustrated by clicking through a long list of fields (that just got longer) when I’ve no interest in many/most. Especially so when I accidentally overshoot and need to go through them all again. The compass that’s added to this list is only marginally more useful than a chocolate teapot - every diver that needs a compass is still going to have to take an additional device to overcome this glaring - like GLARING - shortcoming in a premium device from a very experienced company that should know better.

                                There are a few excellent mock ups on here that lean into the Suunto design language without copying competitors. I think it’s obvious that two of the data fields need to be variable and controlled in real time via the buttons (e.g. button 1 - field 1, button 2 - field 2, button 3 - Arch). I really don’t need to change the brightness mid-dive, lock the buttons, nor switch gases (but get that others might). If this drops something necessary maybe additional screens are needed and button function varies by screen.

                                Additional customisation in settings or via the app would be good - in particular turning off data items that are just clutter (I don’t want the clock really, PPO2 may not be needed if all you want is the no-deco info, etc…).

                                *I will not have a pop at the Suunto app here but that’s another example of largely pretty but woefully under-capable aspect of the Suunto ecosystem.

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                                  danieleridoo @Brad_Olwin
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                                  @Brad_Olwin @sacrevache

                                  Yes, you are both right!!

                                  Just look at the compass on my 6 year old Suunto Eon. It is miles better than what the Ocean offers:

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                                  You are right, @Brad_Olwin , they need to make the dive screen customizable.

                                  Yes, @sacrevache, I saw this YouTube video showing what you are descibing.

                                  I was holding back on this computer, but after seeing what Suunto has come up with after so many months of the anticipated compass, I got so tired of waiting that I ordered a Shearwater Peregrine Tx today and will not look at Suunto for a while. This has been such a let down and such a shame since the Ocean is so beautiful and has a great display and great feautres.

                                  I hope Suunto will see this and do better!

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                                    danieleridoo @diogao13
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                                    @diogao13
                                    This is hilarious after I found out that it is a digital camera.

                                    https://youtu.be/yFijwwocY4Y?si=gaFcmIlIon5WL1Iy&t=67

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                                      diogao13 Bronze Member @danieleridoo
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                                      @danieleridoo said in Suunto Ocean SW update 2.36.18 (2024 Q3):

                                      @diogao13
                                      This is hilarious after I found out that it is a digital camera.

                                      https://youtu.be/yFijwwocY4Y?si=gaFcmIlIon5WL1Iy&t=67

                                      🤣🤷🏻

                                      I still hope that Suunto will revert this situation in future firmwares. The hardware is great (screen and battery are amazing), the software includes a lot of good features, but still needs a lot of polishing and improvements.

                                      Just an example. Considering Suunto expertise with RGBM algorithm, there should be an option for the user to choose: Suunto Bühlmann, pure Bühlmann, or Suunto RGBM.

                                      Why did they abandon RGBM?
                                      Why did they choose that beautiful, but poor screen layout?

                                      Probably diving activity is not the main focus. I don’t know…

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                                      • MaximfreediverM Offline
                                        Maximfreediver @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by

                                        @Brad_Olwin found, thanks. As for application Suunto, i want to step in each certain dive, but i can’t. I only see table and graphic.

                                        Hope that you add it in next updates

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                                        • Frank ScholerF Offline
                                          Frank Scholer
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                                          Hi everyone,

                                          I see the update as available in the Suunto app and it says, it could take some time to download. However there‘s no progress and I gave it the whole night to complete the download, but nothing. Pressing the ‚Update Now‘ button doesnt do anything…

                                          As I am currently on diving holiday, I would love to get the update! Any idea what I can do to force or expedite the download/installation?

                                          Thanks Frank

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                                            danieleridoo @diogao13
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                                            @diogao13 Indeed. So many questions and very few answers. Suunto lost and oppurtunity to make a great product from launch!

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