[DONE] Selling S9 bought Garmin Fenix 5x

[A Former User]

Well, I have the 5x too and you will run into other issues. Same same but different. Enjoy your new watch

[mbergi]

For example poor GPS accuracy. Pace calculation was really bad (even average pace) under tough conditions (areas with trees, etc.)

[SlaSh]

@Martin-Bergmayr and how Fenix is doing? For example Garmin F5 was worse in gps terms than spartan baro…

[Oli_Ver]

These days it is normally that you can buy only unfinished products, you can buy what you want, everything the same…
We German call it “Banana Products”, matures at the customer.

The manufacturer are more busy with creating new products instead of improving the products they have.
Therefore you can buy what you want, you ever will have trouble, sometime more, sometime less…

[mbergi]

@SlaSh sorry, my posting referred to the Fenix. I found it inaccurate very often so I switched back to Suunto. I use a Spartan Ultra now and love the look and feel. If there wouldn’t be that mess with the Suunto ecosystem…

[SlaSh]

@Oli_Ver I have just donwloaded garmin connect app, not used it over the year, progressed a lot…

[Armin S.]

@SlaSh … Garmin APP - I think it’s creepy

[sartoric]

@surfexit109
Farewell, have fun.

[peringmar]

@moe67er What made you switch to suunto? What are the flaws on the fenix?

[Brad_Olwin]

I understand your frustration. I think in another six months the Suunto app will be where you might be happier. It did take time for Garmin to develop connect. For me, the hardware is the most important. These are complicated devices and I think you will find pluses and minuses for both.

[sartoric]

Unfortunately this is the trend of the last years.
As Freddie said … I want it all, and I want it now

I understand the frustration but

• I don’t see TODAY so many issues as (maybe) in the past years
• You shouldn’t buy a watch for its app
• You should know what you’re buying, considering the cost, but if you have no money issues please, don’t complaint just buy a new one
• You should rtfm

I’m happy with my S Baro, the app it’s not yet the best so I’m still using MC web and that’s perfectly fine to me

[SlaSh]

@sartoric I disagree on app part, it is very important how hardware is connected with software now. As I said I have checked Garmin connect app after more than one year of not using it and it evolved significantly and I like it how it looks and works, which the same for suunto app.

[sartoric]

@SlaSh
Sure.
In fact I’m not saying that the app is not important at all, what I mean is that you shouldn’t buy the watch for the app itself.
Maybe choose the watch that fits your needs and consider the App as an important part but not as the main feature.

Regarding watch issue, if we are talking about software bug … honestly, do you (you people, not you Slash ) know any recent device 100% bug proof ?

[SlaSh]

@sartoric well Apple Watch 4 is very reliable in terms of data collecting after using it over 3 weeks.

[A Former User]

I used a FR235 (ConnectIQ), FitBit Blaze (Fitbit), Frontier S3 (SHealth), Stratos (MiFit/Amaze) and now S9 (SApp/MC).

The best app was CIQ, seconded by Fitbit, also with the access to the Web anywhere (you can’t do that with other smartwatch platforms).

The best hardware is the S9, the features offered can be easily improved with FW and programming.
There are plenty of flaws in SApp that will be fixed in the near future and I hope that Suunto listen the comments/pledges of the users.

Suunto is an amazing watch but the user interface, customization, apps and FW must improve drastically if they want to be #1, which I believe they will become IF and ONLY IF they listen to the market …

Thanks

[A Former User]

@peringmar the cracking oHR sensor is very bad for that price. And the display presentation of Suunto is much smoother beside native support for running power.

[SlaSh]

@moe67er hell yes, my F3hr got replaced cause of composite used for ohr sensor crack, but replacement part had as well minor crack after 3 months of usage and I sold it, cannot comment on as owned it less than a month cause of sensors connectivity issues.

[suzzlo]

Hi,

I’m not buying a watch, I’m buying training tools: Watch + App + Web

I need something that help me training harder, smarter and healthier, and actually, none of them (Suunto, Polar, Garmin) are good enough:

• Suunto: best accuracy but lack of basic features
• Polar: in the middle of those 2. Not the most big list of features and not the most accurate watch
• Garmin: good platform with too much features but poor accuracy

you always have to give up something… and that’s why it’s always something relative to personal preferences

I’m also thinking of buying a new watch for triathlon, but… which would I buy? FR935? never tested a Garmin but you all guys says that has bad accuracy. Vantage V? very immature (like Suunto platform now)

BR

[ColdBeer]

@suzzlo said in [DONE] Selling S9 bought Garmin Fenix 5x:

Hi,

I’m not buying a watch, I’m buying training tools: Watch + App + Web
Totally agree, this is the point of every conversation talking about sportwatches. And, definitely, if you are a manufacturer/producer, you don’t need to hear every user (buyers/athletes with few weeks of experience, for example), and if you are interested on extending your market, you must hear a little further than your traditional expertise users.
So finally, you must develop an stable, trustworthy, expandable and non device dependant platform for athletes, where an expertise could be comfortable, and where a nerd could say WOW!

I need something that help me training harder, smarter and healthier, and actually, none of them (Suunto, Polar, Garmin) are good enough:

• Suunto: best accuracy but lack of basic features

And immersed in a non sense (for overall users) road developing a platform based on mobile apps (against a web based platform which is their best expertise point and the easier -because it’s not device dependant- one)…

• Polar: in the middle of those 2. Not the most big list of features and not the most accurate watch
• Garmin: good platform with too much features but poor accuracy

But, at least into my neighborhood (friends, familiars…), it’s something just like a standard. But for sure, with a confiable and non device dependant web platform with a punch of capabilities to deeply analysis of workouts and programming them.

I’m also thinking of buying a new watch for triathlon, but… which would I buy? FR935? never tested a Garmin but you all guys says that has bad accuracy. Vantage V? very immature (like Suunto platform now)

My wife has got a FR735XT and have not so bad accuracy (at least compared with my SST). Like EVERY other one, it could have a bad day, but mine, for example, has always a bad day on open water. On bike and running, normally mine has got more accuracy, but I must say it has more bad days than 735.
In the other side, as far as triathlon athletes doesn’t do just triathlon competition, but they do duathlon and swim&run too (and other kind of sport cocktails)… IMHO saying that Spartans watches are triathlon watches is a limited assertion and while they have not customized multi-sport modes, the correct assertion would be something like “limited triathlon watches”.
I took a short view of a Xiaomi Amazfit Pace 2/Stratos, and it just really have a customizable multisport mode with transitions (or not, whatever you want). In the other hand, it has just a mobile app, which is far enough from an optimal sport solution.

[mbergi]

@sartoric I reallly can’t understand why Suunto made the decision to leave movescount behind and go that standalone-app way. I’m using Suunto watches since 1999 (Vector, T6. Ambit, Ambit3, SSU). I loved every single of them (at least to ambit3), but now i’m really worrying about the future. I think it will take Suunto years to create a new ecosystem that is able to compete with the market companions. The situation at the moment is so frustrating.
For example: as a user I want to add graphs to my custom sports modes - that means I have to quit movescount wich is the only possibility to do serious workout analysis…I don’t have any more words for that situation…
It’s nice to see a lot of people here in the forum who try to help anyway.

But I have more and more doubt about having such a long breath