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    • KetoohsK Offline
      Ketoohs Silver Members
      last edited by Ketoohs

      So I was waiting to buy Stryd at BF, but now I don’t know if I should pull the trigger?

      I would mostly use it for a better pace when on treadmill as this is bothering me a lot. The new solution when you can edit the distance at the end of the workout is probably fine for steady state running but should not work ok for intervals…

      But if I buy it I would also like to use it on the road.

      I use 4 or 5 different shoes.

      Advice appreciated… thanks

      Karoo3 (2024)
      Vertical allBlack (2023)
      9 Peak Black (2022)
      Spartan WHR Black (2017)
      Ambit 2 Black (2013)

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        loopylou72 @Ketoohs
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        @Ketoohs there are a lot of other metrics Styrd provides that make it worth it if you are going to use it. If you are going to train with power zones and use the app and Power dashboard, programs for training etc. I have bever heard this about calibration and shoes. I have used Stryd for quite a few years and the only issues I have had with distance have been when I had auto-calibrate on. I am not sure what happened yesterday to get 300m extra in a 10km race! I also like it in the treadmill especially with Zwift.

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          loopylou72 @RightNow
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          @RightNow weight of what?

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            far-blue Bronze Member
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            I’ve not used stryd much with Suunto as I’m new to Suunto (testing out the waters with a 5 peak). However, I have been using stryd with my phone and iSmoothRun for 3 years and base a lot of my training on power. Regarding distance from stryd I’ve always found it very good - it’s certainly more accurate than gps in summer on tree covered canal path routes, and in races the differences to the km markers are usually due to me taking a ‘racing line’ round corners. I’ve never attempted to re-calibrate between shoes but have noticed I need to drop target power ranges about 10w for sessions or races when running trails compared to road - could be the shoes, could be the surface, could be a bit of both. I do note that the latest stryd pod supports “profiles” so you can specify the kind of session you are doing and, I assume, the shoe you are wearing and it can adjust its algorithm automatically.

            Stryd does offer a lot more than just power, pace and distance. I’ve not made huge use of the more advanced metrics and the Running Stress Balance scores are basically the same idea as the TP TSB so no gain there but the critical power curve, the race power predictions in the app and the website based course analysis and predictor calculator (which do require the subscription) are very useful both for mapping pace-based workouts to power and for planning a race. I’ve not used the stryd training plans but they also look decent (although I don’t think they sync to Suunto).

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              far-blue Bronze Member @loopylou72
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              @loopylou72 I think @RightNow is referring to the fact that your Suunto and your Stryd both need to know your current weight in order to calculate accurately.

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                loopylou72 @far-blue
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                @far-blue thanks for your reply 🙂

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                  loopylou72 @tiago
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                  @tiago so I did the comparison runs, Vertical power and my old Peak connected to Stryd as a foot pod not calibrated. My weight the same on all devices. This time the Stryd gave less distance 6.25km with 155w (in the race I had more distance) and 9w more power than the Vertical 6.36km with 146w (mayeb due to the difference in distances). Was on a rocky trail but open on a ridge. In my miler I will use the Vertical GPS and the Stryd separately not connected to my watch and see what I get! Thanks for everyone’s help.

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                    tiago Bronze Member @loopylou72
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                    @loopylou72 I use stryd uncalibrated on Garmin,but the distance and pace came from Garmin,is a big plus on Garmin we have that option and in all of my runs the difference between Suunto Race power and Stryd is about 1 or 2 wats most of the times,I even did a offline sync with stryd to check if the power numbers are the same provided by Garmin+stryd and in my 6 runs with both in the end the power was almost the same on both. The only situation where stryd could be more reliable as source of power is in runs where you have strong head wind, because Suunto doesn’t have wind detection like stryd.

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                      loopylou72 @loopylou72
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                      @loopylou72 so I used the Stryd separately in my race but out of habit offline synced it with the app, and it merged which watch data, not sure how that can happen as I didn’t use Stryd connected to my watch at all. I guess my watch was set to upload to the Stryd app? Is there a way to see only the Stryd data?

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                        tiago Bronze Member @loopylou72
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                        @loopylou72 in order to only have stryd data you can’t have your Suunto account connected with stryd, otherwise the data from Suunto goes to stryd

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                          loopylou72 @tiago
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                          @tiago OK thanks

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                            RightNow Bronze Member @loopylou72
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                            What happens if you connect the Stryd pod as a power pod instead of a foot pod. Is that possible? It seems only power is used in that case.

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                              RightNow Bronze Member @RightNow
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                              @RightNow New year. Same question 😂. When will it come? 😎

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                                isazi Moderator @RightNow
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                                @RightNow if you pair as power pod, you only get power and not pace, cadence, etc.

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                                  isazi Moderator @RightNow
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                                  @RightNow what?

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                                  • FunkyLarmaF Offline
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                                    Hi Stryd users, can I just confirm the usage of a Suunto with and without the new Suunto+ Stryd app and what to pair my Stryd as.

                                    My understanding is that if I use the Suunto+ Stryd app it will display some of the metrics in realtime, but I think I have read somewhere that you need to remove the connection to the Stryd to get it to pair from the app. Can anyone confirm?

                                    If I did not want to use the Suunto+ app and just paired the Stryd to the watch I would still get power readings from the pod and would need to do the double sync method to get the gps watch track into PowerCenter with the full metrics? To which what do I pair as; power pod or foot pod?

                                    Cheers!

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                                      herlas Silver Members @FunkyLarma
                                      last edited by herlas

                                      @FunkyLarma correct, you won’t be able to use the new S+ Stryd app if Stryd is enabled as footpod or power pod under the sensors option in the pre-run screen, no need to remove Stryd completely from the watch, just make sure you turn it off in sensors when you want to test the S+ app.

                                      Check out my initial feedback on the S+ Stryd app.

                                      https://forum.suunto.com/post/139268

                                      For the other Qs, the new S+ is not a replacement of the offline sync, in fact, I’ve just discover from Stryd directly they’re not merging their data with Suunto when we use the new S+ app, the feature is not there, so basically you’ll have two workouts in power center, this is not good at all.

                                      And you can pair it as power pod if you only want power data coming from Stryd, if you want power, distance, pace and cadence from the Stryd, pair it as footpod, heck, you can pair both ways and it’ll work.

                                      I always use it as footpod (don’t forget to turn off auto calibration after pairing), I like having 0 issues when I run through underpass in my city, or GPS affected by very tall buildings ( city runner here 🙂 ) etc etc.

                                      And when I’m doing power-based intervals I also enable it as power pod to get power avg lap reported on the lap screen instead of avg pace 😉

                                      Hope this helps.

                                      SRS Ti
                                      A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                                      Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                                        FunkyLarma @herlas
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                                        @herlas thank you for the reply, I did find your feedback review after I posted; just finding my feet in the forum.

                                        It does kind of feel like a missed opportunity with this ‘integration’ at present. Not sure if this is the start of a deeper integration but the lack of recording all metrics and the syncing does not really feel like using the app has much benefit.
                                        Personally, like you, I prefer the pace coming from Stryd as it does feel more responsive; at least on Garmin and Wahoo. Most of my workouts are power based but I’m not looking at Air Power or Form during a workout, post analysis yes but when you have your head down I just want to know if I’m hitting targets. Which sort of puts me in the ‘pair as a foot pod’ camp.

                                        Also did note your comment on Suunto Guides for Stryd workouts, which would be great. Currently I build most of mine in TrainingPeaks and so far have made the most of the Stryd plans or workouts. Fingers crossed for deeper integration.

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                                          herlas Silver Members @FunkyLarma
                                          last edited by herlas

                                          @FunkyLarma right, at least the thing finally came, now the big question is, can they have gone for a regular S+ app instead of a device type ? Stryd was already talking to our Suunto watches in a native way if you know what I mean 😉

                                          If displaying Stryd metrics and saving them to the workout is possible with a regular S+ app, that would be cleaner and more functional for everyone.

                                          Any ideas on that? Thx

                                          SRS Ti
                                          A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                                          Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                                          • FunkyLarmaF Offline
                                            FunkyLarma @herlas
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                                            @herlas very true. When I started running just over a year ago I really struggled, but as a cyclist, running with power was easy to understand; paces always confuse me as I have no idea what a 5k pace is 😉
                                            My biggest complaint with Stryd is not the platform or the device but more the company and customer support. It is not as easy to understand and my experiences of their forums or Facebook group can be quite aggressive. I really think they could benefit from a bit more in terms of documentation and user guides, not everyone is a science and tech savvy as they are.

                                            Had confirmation from DPD that my first Suuntu will be delivered this afternoon so hoping to test some settings over the coming days 👍

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