Suunto Vertical battery modes
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@gone-troppo
if it states “navigation” it is independent from “maps”.
maps are the background layers of the navigation screen and of course will use more battery.
maps are available only for performance node, but if you need to optimize battery life and you must have maps accessable without hassle, I recommend to select custom battery mode and change from “best” to “ok”. estimate battery life seems to be almost as good as with “ultra”.living sideways
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@freeheeler said in Suunto Vertical battery modes:
@gone-troppo
if it states “navigation” it is independent from “maps”.
maps are the background layers of the navigation screen and of course will use more battery.
maps are available only for performance node, but if you need to optimize battery life and you must have maps accessable without hassle, I recommend to select custom battery mode and change from “best” to “ok”. estimate battery life seems to be almost as good as with “ultra”.Thanks mate the first part of your reply I understood but not so much this part
“ but if you need to optimize battery life and you must have maps accessable without hassle, I recommend to select custom battery mode and change from “best” to “ok”. estimate battery life seems to be almost as good as with “ultra”.
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@gone-troppo
you could select ultra for your activity and omce you need maps change to performance mode to enable maps, which is cumbersome.
if you select custom battery mode and within custom you can select best, good and ok. as they correspond relatively well to performance, endurance and ultra, you will benefit from more battery life when selecting “ok” but still have maps accessable if required. of course battery life will be less if you stay on the maps screen all the time.
does this explain it a bit better?I recall your jungle adventure and see the usecase: maximize battery life but having maps available anyway
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Thanks mate that’s much clearer wow I didn’t realise the custom battery mode could do this I haven’t used custom battery modes. Yes in my recent adventure I did exactly what you say I had endurance mode on and every time I needed maps I would change to performance mode then turn map on and then when finished with map change back to endurance.
I will have to play around with the custom battery mode in future i generally leave things pretty basic ie I don’t use suunto apps or anything like that as the usual screens give me all the data I need.
Thanks
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@freeheeler said in Suunto Vertical battery modes:
maps are available only for performance node, but if you need to optimize battery life and you must have maps accessable without hassle, I recommend to select custom battery mode and change from “best” to “ok”. estimate battery life seems to be almost as good as with “ultra”.
It seems that the battery impact of the maps isn’t that much. If you replicate the Endurance profile in a Custom profile but with maps on, the expected batterylife is roughly the same.
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@surfboomerang 15 seconds after leaving the map screen, storage is powered off, so maps are negligible when not on the map screen. There is a battery cost in being always in the map screen (of course, I do not do 80 hours activities, so I use the map screen pretty liberally and still have great battery life).
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@isazi I will keep an eye on that one. I use the map a lot (almost all the time) during hiking activities in unknown locations. Next time, I will switch to a different screen and see if there is a difference.
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Regarding the Custom profile… why isn’t it possible to configure all the same settings as the predefined profiles but only a subset?
The predefined profiles control GNSS accuracy, display timeout and touch like in the Custom profile, but also map, wrist HR, bluetooth, backlight intensity and vibration. These options are partly configurable outside the Custom profile and some of them only before the start of an activity.
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@surfboomerang I don’t think anyone here can explain the logic behind what is in the battery profile and what in the sports mode…
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Hi,
I’m considering replacing my S9PP with a Vertical, to use in a race that will likely take me 100-120hrs. I’ll be using the watch for route navigation, but happy with breadcrumb only for most of the time (I find this clearer). I’ll also have time and distance to waypoint fields in a custom sport mode.
For those who’ve used the Vertical in Endurance or Ultra mode, is it definitely the case that it doesn’t switch to Performance when on the navigation screen or with ETA/ETE etc fields activated? The user manual and the battery mode FAQ on the Suunto website are contradictory on this point. It was/is the same with my S9PP - the manual and FAQ are contradictory and when I’ve navigated in Endurance mode battery burn rate has been closer to Performance.
If the watch does switch to Performance mode, I assume I can charge it during the activity like I can with the S9 watches - is that correct?
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@MKPotts
I can’t answer about battery duration, but about charging it during your activity, really be aware of the real weakness of the magnet for the new charging base (and old bases with stronger magnets are not compatible).
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@MKPotts As long as you are on a 1 sec GPS fix mode this should work fine but I will ask for you as I am interested as well. I can try to do some testing on this as well but it will take awhile. I am considering some longer races (not sure yet) and I would have the same questions. I like to use ETE/ETA fields in Races but none of mine have a greater than 48h cut off so far so I will try to find out.
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@isazi In my opinion GPS accurancy (Best, Good, OK) is an independent setting from MAP availability.
I tried in custom mode and map is available with every gps settings from Best to OK.In case you select other battery mode then Performance or Custom, maps is not active. It is because the battery mode contains that setting - map off.
As Suunto defined battery modes are locked and cannot change, this is a fact.
Regarding battery consumption. I mainly use my watch with map on the screen almost for whole trailrunning or hiking exercises. The difference in estimated usage time is around 3%. I don’t think it significant.
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@Mff73
Thanks. I’ve got a S9PP, which I believe uses the same charger, so I know what you mean about the weak connection. Definitely would be difficult to use while running.
Luckily on this race, the checkpoints/aid stations are only every 60-100km, which means I’ll normally be at each for an hour or more, giving enough time to charge if needed. But I’d rather avoid charging if possible, because it’s another thing to do (or forget to do) when very tired. -
@Brad_Olwin
Thanks. I know based on the FAQ/article on the website it should be ok in Endurance and Ultra, but that doesn’t seem to be true for my S9PP (battery drain in Endurance mode - with wrist heart rate off but navigation and nav data fields on - was much faster than spec).
Please let me know if you get definite confirmation.
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@kamarasm
Thank you, good to have confirmation that you need to be in performance or custom mode to use the map. According to the manual you can toggle the map on or off in performance mode - I don’t understand why Suunto don’t allow you to do that in endurance and ultra modes, even if default is the map off. Good also to know that map on or off doesn’t affect the battery drain much.
Ideally I’d be able to have the watch in ultra mode, navigate with breadcrumb route and eta/ete fields active, toggling the map on very occasionally if needed. It sounds like I can do this by creating a custom mode.
My main concern is thinking the watch is in ultra mode (140hrs) and then finding it’s switched to performance because I’m navigating, making it go flat after less than 60hrs. I’m assuming Suunto still don’t allow battery as a data field and you still have to pause the watch - it would be great if that’s changed! -
@MKPotts
Battery is one point, but if you plan to record such a long activity, you may consider having issues with syncing it to the app after.
https://forum.suunto.com/post/121031Maybe you should split it into small portion, and sync them during aid station pauses.
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@Mff73 said in Suunto Vertical battery modes:
@MKPotts
Battery is one point, but if you plan to record such a long activity, you may consider having issues with syncing it to the app after.
https://forum.suunto.com/post/121031Maybe you should split it into small portion, and sync them during aid station pauses.
This has been fixed as eMMC memory is now used to record long events. This change occurred in the latest update. I tested this with a drive from Colorado to California this last summer on field test firmware when released with no issues.
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@Brad_Olwin
@Mff73
Thanks for the further info. And pleased to hear that storage space for activities is no longer an issue. I just assumed it wouldn’t be given the size of even a very long activity file (about 10MB) compared to available storage in the Vertical.When buying my S9PP, Suunto confirmed that it would have enough memory to, at the very least, store an activity as long as the claimed battery life (so 70hrs in Endurance). I assumed that would also be true for the Vertical, meaning 140hrs in Ultra mode, so good to have it confirmed.
I know about the limits with the S9B. Like the original poster in that thread, I found out the hard way by being unable to sync a long race, after recharging as I went.
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@Spree if i activate Performance (estimation to 60h) mode in suunto vertical and route navigation and if i switch to an another screen than navigation during my workout, will the autonomy stay at 60h (without suunto plus) ?
It is just to sometimes the screen map and waypoints, ETA but not all the times in an ultra.Watch: Suunto vertical solar
