Steel All Black Weekend Bug Report
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… Picking up where we left off…
11. Map loads, then disappears when region is crossed
Here’s an interesting behavior. My NJ map is finally displaying, I downloaded a neighboring NY map, which doesn’t appear to load. Again. Same “outline and contour only” type of a deal. As I swipe from NJ over Hudson to Manhattan and then onto Queens, the NY map starts pulling in. Great! I then get back to NJ and it’s now gone. And will remain gone until a soft reset. It appears that I can literally have only one region loaded properly at a time:
12. Map loads fragments of details (lines broken, etc)
… and sometimes you get slightly more than contours but not quite a map. Lots of broken misaligned lines. Soft-resetting is a Russian roulette. It might fix the problem, but more likely would just turn everything grey:
13. Drop outs in heart rate, power data
You will not see it in the Suunto apps or other platforms that smooth/repair the data like Training Peaks or Intervals.icu, but both Vertical editions showed a surprising proclivity for breaks in data, be it heart rate or power. Some of the gaps were as long as 10-15 sec and would happen with both OHR and heart rate straps. I don’t remember seeing anything like this on S9B or S9P though I did see similar gaps in S9PP after it had been used for several weeks.
14. ActiveLook S+ app is gimped
It doesn’t appear that ActiveLook S+ app is quite ready for prime time when it comes to Vertical. It will connect fine and perform its task (see below for a fiery conclusion), but the display is notably gimped. Battery level is missing and there are placeholder text labels. Which kind of foreshadows the best part…
15. Suunto bricked my Engo 2 glasses. Allegedly.
So, I get out of my car to begin the run. I disregard the issues with a strange work-in-progress display for ActiveLook S+ app (above) just like I’m disregarding all the issues already reported and some that I haven’t written about. I start my run and for a time, everything is great. I’m in heaven. I have my native running power from Stryd, my S+ workout guide is executing reasonably well, and all the numbers I care about are pumped into Engo 2 glasses display on my mug.
Despite scorching sun of the open field, heat and humidity, I’m cool and happy. Total techno utopia! Alas, that happiness is very short lived, because about 25-30 minutes in, after several data cutouts prominently displayed in the glasses, the image there freezes. Then it starts partially refreshing, with new lines and pixels overlaying over numbers already on screen. Then it all goes dark. ActiveLook glasses are out, and so is my Suunto watch, which crashes bad time.
When I get back to the car the glasses are still out. I try to turn them off, and what appears as the usual shutdown sequence plays. And then the glasses die for good. They will no longer respond to buttons and charging LEDs won’t come up. Funny enough, this is the second pair of Engo 2 glasses. The previous one died after a couple of runs with Suunto 9 Peak Pro.
In conclusion… I have more things to talk about, sadly. Issues with lap button not advancing structured S+ guide workout properly, strangeness of Burner app quantum jumps in carbs, and other nit-picks like a weird 24/7 HR behavior which remains turned off unless you are the in Heart Rate widget, in which case it isn’t, yet it doesn’t record any spot checks done there neither in the watch, nor in the app…
O, and wee still have two New York states in the USA, nearly a month after the watch release!
I’m sure faulty hardware can be replaced and most these issues will be sorted out eventually. Suunto has a process. Let the process play out. Some day.
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@isazi said in Steel All Black Weekend Bug Report:
Sunset/sunrise depends on GPS position, not passed by the watch, so I think for that you need to acquire GPS
Never in my life I had to explicitly acquire GPS fix to get sunset/sunrise before, I’m fairly certain of it. Perhaps I had better luck with aGPS sync and that delivered the location.
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@NickK Garmin used to do this too (acquire gps before sunrise and sunset info in some of their watch face), but never anymore in last few version of their sdk. Now they sync with watch and no longer need gps for sunrise or sunset
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@isazi For the compass calibration, could it be caused by Suunto using magnetic charger? Magnet for sure will screw up the compass. I do notice the same with my s9p. After every charging, I need to calibrate compass
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@Kk2n-Kk In my case it will be required regardless of a charger. I thought about it, but I think there’s more to it than just magnets. And supposedly, Suunto specifically made chargers in S9PP and SV with much weaker magnets to avoid messing up with the compass.
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@NickK I read about that too (about weaker magnet). But I agree…the compass calibration can be annoying pita . My friends by now have this joke that I would always “dance” nearly everytime before I start running due to this compass calibration requirements (s9p) lol
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@isazi I also have steel version. is compass issue linked to steel version mainly or it is also for solar? because for me even after calibration north is not north. and calibrating compass while watch is on bike handlebar is quite challenging…
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@dombo said in Steel All Black Weekend Bug Report:
calibrating compass while watch is on bike handlebar is quite challenging…
No it’s not
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@dombo titanium or steel, it’s the same.
