Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a

freeheeler

@Prenj
confirmed… sunday is the new friday then…

Tieutieu

N/A value too on my S9B today. Too bad, it was a race, and gps recording was very bad and interrupted…No problem on my wife’s S9P wife and on a friend’s A3P…
Nevertheless total distance and pace where strangely accurate…

freeheeler

@Tieutieu
AGPS helps to lock satellites faster.
it’s now too late… but if you have waited until the arrow is steady and not searching anymore, it should not have a negative effect on your track recording and values.

I’m sorry your race hasn’t been recorded properly…
anyhow, Suunto knows and it looked like it was solved. let’s observe more and please report here if you notice again AGPS: N/A

Tieutieu

@freeheeler : I had prepared my watch few minutes before the race, and had no reason to check (It usually takes less than 20sec to get GPS signal). Discovered the signal was off when the race started
Not a big deal anyway.

Shrek3k

@Tieutieu said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

@freeheeler : I had prepared my watch few minutes before the race, and had no reason to check (It usually takes less than 20sec to get GPS signal). Discovered the signal was off when the race started
Not a big deal anyway.

… and the “mysteriously” accurate speed etc should be the (in)famous “fused speed” feature, that uses more or less all available sensors in the watch to estimate (quite nicely for me, too) speed and distance … even without GPS reception and thereby without nice track on the map.

Tieutieu

@Shrek3k said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

… and the “mysteriously” accurate speed etc should be the (in)famous “fused speed” feature

Exactly what I tought ; had the issue during another race last September, and same “accuracy”.
Works pretty well so !

Mouse Cruiser

It happens again. So it’s not solved yet.

freeheeler

@Miš-Kan
obviously and unfortunately not… but Suunto is aware and if you wait for the satellites to be locked properly it is a minor issue IMO

Bradleyd

@Freeheeler, out of curiosity and true seriousness, how does a person properly “wait for GPS lock” before starting a real race? Should I start running when the race begins and press “start” on the watch when the GPS has a lock? Another alternative for a time only race ( not place ) is to stand to the side, letting others pass, until the watch is ready, then start the race and the watch at the same time.

freeheeler

@Bradleyd
I did “races” when I did not have a gnss watch… but to me it is obvious: you warm up and you can already put your watch in start screen. this can be around 30mins or more before the start.
I know somebody who tracks warmup and cooldown at race days, too

isazi

@Bradleyd the easiest way is to go to the start screen well in advance. I usually open the screen already in the waiting area.

This doesn’t mean Suunto shouldn’t solve this issue with AGPS on weekends, it’s weird and bad, but it’s a good idea anyway to go on the activity start screen in advance.

Bradleyd

@isazi and @freeheeler, this makes logical sense: get HR and GPS locked and confirmed well before going to the starting line.

On a side note, “fused-speed” is an unbelievably cool feature and great backup for flakey GPS.

Tieutieu

AGPS is back this morning on my S9B

jussim

Ah, good to know the reason. I was wondering why it was taking unusually long to get GPS locked in recent weeks. Here’s hoping for a permanent fix soon.

Milan Šádek

@isazi Is it only S9 related problem? I received a GPS twice within 20-30 sec last Saturday with my S5. And yesterday, it was superfast - something like 15 sec only. Normally, I have to wait even 1+ min.

Mitch9

Now again: AGPS N/A

MiniForklift

Mine is all good right now

freeheeler

@MiniForklift
what time and date is your AGPS?
because mine is N/A…
but Suunto knows

cosme.costa

I think Suunto should start to check this issue seriously, if they aren’t. Seems that is only S9/S9B related, if I’m not mistaken S5 uses the same Sony chip so issue should come from another place.

AGPS file is valid for some days 2/3/4 days but issue here is that with a sync we loose a valid AGPS file because SA pushes an empty/corrupt file.

These small things downgrades a lot the experience with the watch, I can accept that from time to time we have this issue with the AGPS but the last months we’ve have it several times, and at least 3 weekends on a row now.

BTW, I know that I can go to the sport screen some time before, I do it but this is not the way. I not always have the time. I mean, right now I’m in the middle of the cros season, I run and my kids too, so most of the times I’m in a hurry, therefore I need that the GPS locking works, not spend my little time before the start with this. In my experience, when we don’t have AGPS file, even if we wait for the lock, if we don’t wait enough time the track will be quite bad, I guess is because the lock is done with the minimum satellites and the watch struggles a lot to keep this or acquire more satellites.

Mff73

@cosme-costa
agree, mainly on the technical point that, depending on dates, a “still valid” AGPS file should be kept in case of “bad one” (if it is detectable beforehand ). In such cases, watch could :
1- keep old data
2- warn user (or SA ? ) that something is beginning to goes wrong when AGPS is about to expire.