Sunrise and sunset are wrong

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

@Airo your GPS coordinates say that you are in Switzerland and Google gives same sunrise and sunset times as the watch for that location as seen below.

So are you somewhere else than Switzerland?

[Airo]

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen I’m exactly there, but these sunrise and sunset are wrong…
useless feature

[Brad_Olwin]

@Airo The sunset and sunrise times on the watch match the place. I am unclear what is wrong or incorrect?

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

@Airo said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

Here is my position and what show the widget. The sunrise now is about at 10.30 and the sunset about at 14.40…

There is no way that your claimed sunrise and sunset times are correct for Switzerland. That is only 4hours of daylight.

Actually, those times are close to what we have here in Finland where I am right now.

If you feel that you have too little daylight at the moment then complain about the universe and not the watch. The watch is just telling you how it is

[Airo]

@Brad_Olwinnow I understand… I thought they were the hours with the sun present, but they are the hours of daylight. For me the presence of the sun is important because of the changes of the wind. I fly with the Paragliding …
Thank you

[Airo]

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

There is no way that your claimed sunrise and sunset times are correct for Switzerland. That is only 4hours of daylight.

Actually, those times are close to what we have here in Finland where I am right now.

If you feel that you have too little daylight at the moment then complain about the universe and not the watch. The watch is just telling you how it is

stupid and useless comment

[mikekoski490]

@Airo said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen I’m exactly there, but these sunrise and sunset are wrong…
useless feature

I assume you meant ‘in your opinion, its a useless feature’? This might help to off-set the negativity in your statement.

I think everyone on here is trying to help you. I personally really appreciate the sunrise/sunset feature and it has always been accurate - for me at least.

[Egika]

@Airo said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen I’m exactly there, but these sunrise and sunset are wrong…
useless feature

but you know what the definitions for sunrise and sunset are?
This is when the sun is rising up above the horizon, or vice versa disappearing behind it. The watch does everything right according to your pictures. If a feature is useful for someone depends on the individual usecase. But usually somewhere around sunrise time you’ll have some daylight. The watch even shows twilight times.

[surfboomerang]

@Airo said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

I thought they were the hours with the sun present, but they are the hours of daylight. For me the presence of the sun is important because of the changes of the wind. I fly with the Paragliding …

Genuine question…
Do I understand correctly that you want to know the amount of sun at a particular time? How would that be measured? By irradiance levels, lack of cloud formations…?

The weather widgets shows an hourly forecast but that’s all it is, a forecast.

[Airo]

@surfboomerangI just want to know from when to when it’s sunny.
There is an app that tells you that based on your location. I would have liked the clock to do it too, but it “only” shows the daylight hours.

[Airo]

@Egika The watch show the daylight, not when the sun rise up.
There is already light before of the sunrise, but the wind change significantly in the moment when the sun show up.
that is important for paragliding.

[surfboomerang]

@Airo The watch does show when the sun rises. It just doesn’t show you when it’s sunny in your location. Only the weather widget forecast comes close to that.

Some background info:
http://wordpress.mrreid.org/2013/02/05/dawn-dusk-sunrise-sunset-and-twilight/

[Airo]

@surfboomerang I understood the point… Here there are big mountains, so we see the sun later than is shown in the widget.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Airo I have the same issue as you. Sun disappears much earlier than sunset because of our mountains, I don’t know of any app or watch that will tell you sun visibility.

[Mff73]

@Brad_Olwin said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

@Airo I have the same issue as you. Sun disappears much earlier than sunset because of our mountains, I don’t know of any app or watch that will tell you sun visibility.

there is a website i discoverd some time ago :
https://shademap.app/

Reading the tone of some people in this thread i refrain myself to share, but, for others i do

[surfboomerang]

@Airo Ah ok, never thought of that one. I live in a region where the nearest mountain is hundreds of kilometers away

[Airo]

@Brad_Olwin I use the app Peak Finder. It shows you exactly where and what time the sun arrives, according to your position . It show you also the name and high of the mountains around you. That is very useful for me.
Maybe one day, the watch, could bring these informations from somewhere ?

[Brad_Olwin]

@Mff73 cal topo and other mapping platforms can be used for this. Good point.

[sartoric]

@Airo
You can ask them to use Suunto API for some suunto+ feature, but I guess it wont be easy to implement, since it would probably need to use preloaded data (if it’s not a real time calculation)

[Brad_Olwin]

@Airo I use Peak Finder as well but not used that feature. Thanks!