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      myles.lasker
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      I noticed that despite downloading offline maps for my suunto vertical I don’t have all the trails on my watch that are available on the suunto phone app? A bit frustrating as now have to keep referring to my phone when wanting during hiking.

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        GiPFELKiND Silver Members @myles.lasker
        last edited by GiPFELKiND

        @myles-lasker hey i had the experience with my vertical that in higher showing (509m, 200m) there are not showing all trails. If i Scroll to 50m you have all trails since in the Suunto App.

        For there i wish the automatically zoom from the maps like on the older suunto watch. Higher Level when i bicycle, Power when i Running or walking.

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          A Former User @myles.lasker
          last edited by A Former User

          @myles-lasker Trails or routes? If you’re referring to routes, you have to enable “use in watch”.

          If you’re talking about trails, the map might get an update sooner or later.

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            Egika Platinum Member @myles.lasker
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            @myles-lasker can you specify the region you downloaded and the position of the trail that is missing, please?
            Thx!

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              myles.lasker @GiPFELKiND
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              @GiPFELKiND I tried scrolling down to 50m but still had trails missing

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                myles.lasker @Egika
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                @Egika I was hiking in Rosengarten area , Niedersachsen, Germany

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                  myles.lasker @Guest
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                  @Ilya-Sul trails not routes. Weird thing is I can see them on suunto phone app but not on the watch

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                    mikekoski490 Bronze Member @myles.lasker
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                    @myles-lasker Did you make sure to hit the ''Use in Watch" option after downloading the route to Suunto app?

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                      6294946 Bronze Member @mikekoski490
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                      @mikekoski490

                      I think the question is about the base map, not about a specific planned route.

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                        myles.lasker @6294946
                        last edited by

                        @6294946 correct. It’s the paths on the map. There are more on suunto app than on watch map

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                          Egika Platinum Member @myles.lasker
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                          @myles-lasker the app uses Mapbox data, the watch is loading OSM. The good thing with OSM is, that you can actively contribute to the data and add missing information.

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                            Dirk483 @Egika
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                            @Egika, today I experienced the same as the Topic starter.

                            First week owning and exploring the Vertical. Guided Gravelbike ride no problem…
                            A Stroll through the forest area in the backyard of our hometown this afternoon raised my eyebrows. Looked like was walking in a field of light- and dark geen blankets. but I walks definitely on a unpaved foresttrack.
                            Back home the map in the app clearly showed dotted lines on the wellknown forresttracks. So, Why are they not uploaded for offline usage?

                            do you mean I can ( and have to) add the data myself to see the Mapbox track in my watch?.

                            If so, can you give a hint how to do this?

                            Regards,

                            Matthew
                            The Netherlands

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                              Mff73 @Dirk483
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                              @Dirk483 and @myles-lasker , as @Egika said, you can contribute to OpenStreetmap data following all advices here https://www.openstreetmap.org/fixthemap

                              But, @Egika , it raises a point where Suunto is using two differents sources of maps in their unique ecosystem App/Watch: Mapbox in Phone app and OSM in watch.
                              Thus, two different “ways” to contribute to have the same “”“trusted”“”" map data. Not easy, no ?

                              I am personnaly mapping in OSM each time i discover real paths in real life, but, before this case, i never realized that some paths could be known in Mapbox and not in OSM.

                              @Dirk483 or @myles-lasker , could you share one example of a path you can see in SuuntoApp and which was not in the watch please (just for the sake of looking in OSM) ?

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                                taziden Gold Members @myles.lasker
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                                Maybe the map data is not up-to-date, because from what I remember Mapbox is using OSM data.
                                One way to know is to check if the trails are missing on openstreetmap.org also.

                                S9PP

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                                  Dirk483 @Mff73
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                                  @Mff73 , as you can see, lots of trails. None of them show up on Watch.
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                                    Dirk483 @Mff73
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                                    @Mff73 ,

                                    For comparison, OSM does show them. So it should om watch shouldn’t it. Otherwise I would be very frustrated

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                                      Dirk483 @taziden
                                      last edited by Dirk483

                                      @taziden no… it,s not. See reply above

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                                        Egika Platinum Member @Dirk483
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                                        @Dirk483 This indeed seems to be not correct.
                                        If other zoom levels (25,50,100 m) also don’t show those trails, then please let me know the map tile affected and position of your screenshots.

                                        Thank you!

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                                          Mff73 @Dirk483
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                                          @Dirk483
                                          thanks, and effectively strange.
                                          Let’s answer the question from Egika. These paths are effectively well in OSM (since quite a long time, and apparently well setup).

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                                            trailcafe Bronze Member @Mff73
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                                            @Mff73 there are different classifications of trails in OSM. Maybe the ones in your example do not match the criteria that are shown on the watch!? Just an assumption…

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