S7 successor or possible update with new features
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@binoworld-uk said in S7 successor or possible update with new features:
@aleksander-h Why really bothers me here is that Suunto couldn’t care less about the S7 anymore and isn’t listening or reading this forum.
Seems S7 is going the way of Spartans. Same inexplicable lack of communication.
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@jsuarez said in S7 successor or possible update with new features:
@binoworld-uk said in S7 successor or possible update with new features:
@aleksander-h Why really bothers me here is that Suunto couldn’t care less about the S7 anymore and isn’t listening or reading this forum.
Seems S7 is going the way of Spartans. Same inexplicable lack of communication.
Sometime ago I read this "if it isn’t a clear yes, then it’s a clear no.”
I would say it applies to 99% of things.
Also has DCrainmaker pointed out: “In some ways, I think Polar/Suunto really have to figure out how to best use the limited resources they have. Be it reduction of scope of hardware, or perhaps geographies, or some other area.”That may help you finding a possible answer for lack of updates on spartan and 7.
It’s their business, for sure they do what they think is best to maintain it. -
@andré-faria said in S7 successor or possible update with new features:
Sometime ago I read this "if it isn’t a clear yes, then it’s a clear no.”
I would say it applies to 99% of thingsI agree …same applies to my painfully missing watch lock function
regarding the size of Suunto, I also see that the development team is small and they only have this amount of capacity to develop new stuff… cool stuff! …there are always pros and cons. I see that they can react relatively fast on improvement inputs also due to very short decision processes, on the other hand they simply can’t do everything for every model.
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@freeheeler What’s puzzling here is that Suunto only OLED/Wearos device is supposed to be their flagship smart watch which means it need the most attention from their developers! In this case it’s not getting any attention whatsoever which is sad! I would love to pick-up the phone and speak to their head if dev & marketing and ask him to give me a genuine reason why they are not updating and improving the S7??? I guess we all know where that conversation would go!! 🧐
For the sake of the S7 let’s keep the pressure on Suunto to deliver some sort of update this year to the S7.
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@binoworld-uk said in S7 successor or possible update with new features:
What’s puzzling here is that Suunto only OLED/Wearos device is supposed to be their flagship smart watch which means it need the most attention from their developers!
I honestly don’t think it’s all that puzzling. I think they made the decision that WearOS devices weren’t profitable enough in the short/long term, and decided to move their WearOS resources to their phone app and other watches. This feels very similar to the polar wearos watch which was seeing development and then suddenly polar stopped talking about it and just abandoned WearOS. It’s a shame, but I’m guessing there isn’t enough market at the moment.
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@aleksander-h it’s a plausible idea. Frankly I couldn’t give a toss about Wearos, Suunto UI is munch better anyway and could do with some new stock watch faces from Suunto not Google and also additional features as Google apps are not thta good at all.
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@aleksander-h
i don’t think its the market - the market is there. its the type of market and the competition price that I think is the major factor. Suunto just has the wrong price level on the S7 and that is why it wasn’t competative.Most fitness watches start at around £200 and those tend to be the cheap ones.
That is an expensive wear os smartwatch! Top of the line GW4 start at £249 (and yes they do get up to around £400).
Ticwatch Pro 3 the other main favourite starts at £280 (but often found on sale at £230).
Fossil Gen 6 start at £279.Suunto fits in there with the Suunto 5 Peak at around £259 - so why is the Suunto 7 double that price???
Garmin has the vivoactive 4 at around the same price £250 which gives as similar features as the Suunto 7. I think it helps with the S7 being down around £280 (on sale)- but you are paying that for a two year old watch which you know isn’t going t be upgraded to new wear os platform (where as the others I have mentioned will be);… Again doesn’t help. I really do think that while Suunto provided a quality product they completely missed the market in that most wear os watches/ Fitbit watches (the other competition) and the vast majority of the tizen (samsung) watches were all around half the price of the suunto 7 when it launched (and included a microphone & speaker!).
If they were to launch another wear os product they need to be more realistic against the competition: a) need to compete against wear os (and its competitors) price wise and b) need to compete against the bottom end of the fitness range (as similar level of health/fitness/training features) - but would have competitive advantage with the smarts. So would need to manage the watch in the £200-£270 range. Quality isn’t generally a consideration of most smartwatch users as they expect to update every 2 years - which isn’t always the case with the fitness crowd where it is usually when “I have to have that feature!” that they tend to upgrade. -
@jamie-bg I totally agree with everything you wrote down
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@jamie-bg very well said. I think they know this but cannot be bothered to tweak the S7 to make it still a compelling option in today’s market. What a shame and an embarrassing time for Suunto.
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Yet another Qualcomm chip on horizon! It all become a little bit messy in WearOs world.
https://9to5google.com/2022/07/13/qualcomm-snapdragon-wear-2022/
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@DavorP said in S7 successor or possible update with new features:
Yet another Qualcomm chip on horizon! It all become a little bit messy in WearOs world.
https://9to5google.com/2022/07/13/qualcomm-snapdragon-wear-2022/
Last call for me on Suunto. My S7 is getting old and nothing usable introduced since. I really hope they are working around this new chip and WOS3…
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@kurko I wrote to Suunto numerous times pleading for a software update. I suggested some fitness and outdoor features. They are not listening
A real shame as the S7 can remain relevant in 2022 with incremental updates.
Suunto is struggling to to decide what to do with the S7, Finger crossed we get a surprise before the end of 2022!