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      wotus Bronze Member
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      The sensivity of autopause in openwater swimming is not as good as I remember from the Ambit3peak. During constant movement with higher speed in crawl it automatically stopped, but did not start again. I had to continue very often manually. In the end, about 300m was missing on a known distance of about 1600m. Gps was set in performance mode +Beidou.
      I also miss a data field for the number of strokes. Unfortunatly the SA shows no swimming metrics like strokes or strokes per minute.

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        Mff73
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        I am really mixed with this S9P.
        Really comfortable, quick charge, 24/7 HR is nice (i come from SSU without OHR šŸ˜‰ )
        GPS is not that exceptionnal in my area (tried GPS+Glonass, then GPS alone, then GPS+Beidou). It is good, but…
        And fused alti is strange to me.
        Latest run, GPS altitude vs recorded altitude
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        Start and end altitude are GPS OK (385m), but not recorded one (425m).
        Max altitude is somehow correct (510m)

        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
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          wotus Bronze Member
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          During cycling in endurance mode I had very often Gps signal losses partially over 2km long, despite almost clear visible sky, both with Gps only and Gps+Beidou. I had to manually switch to navigation or switch to Gps performance mode so that the signal was found again.
          In addition, I can only recommend autopause in Gps performance mode, otherwise it can come to automatic stops during the ride and there may be no automatic start for several kilometers.
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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
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            @mff73 I don’t see a problem ?

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
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              @mff73 oh you refer only to gps altitude right ?

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                Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos
                Not really, I compare GPS altitude (registered by S9P) with ā€œfusedaltiā€ saved altitude.
                And there is quite a ā€œbigā€ of difference.
                Isn’t it? Or it seems normal?

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @wotus
                  last edited by Brad_Olwin

                  @wotus Why are you using Endurance mode? It is not meant for cycling as FusedTrack will not work. Endurance mode is typically for running/hiking.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    wotus Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by wotus

                    @brad_olwin Because I’ve been so used to the ambit3 in the last few years to reduce the GPS accuracy from best to good without noticeable loss of track quality in order to extend the battery life without any difficulties and now I wanted to test it with the new suunto9p.
                    It is very useful that I can now change the battery mode during activity, but unfortunately with more disadvantages than I thought.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @wotus
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                      @wotus The Endurance and Ultra modes on the S9b are far better than the 5s fix on the Ambit, I have used both quite a bit and was always frustrated with the Ambit. What are the disadvantages? From my perspective there are none.

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        wotus Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by

                        @brad_olwin At the moment I see problems with too insensitive autopause and frequent and long signal losses when cycling with reduced GPS accuracy, as disadvantages. But these are luxury problems in case the battery charge should be too low for the performance mode.

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @wotus
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                          @wotus You can charge your watch on the fly. I don’t like doing that running but I would do it on a bike.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            chrisc92 Bronze Member @wotus
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                            @wotus now autonomy in performance mode is near 25 h ; for the ambit3 it was 20 h that’s quite enough for a long bike ride šŸ˜‰

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                              chrisc92 Bronze Member @chrisc92
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                              @chrisc92

                              Here is the Sunnto 9 Peak Wrist Optical HR record for my easy run.
                              S9P OHR Vs. Polar H10

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                              this is the first time in my 8 years background of HR sensors tests that I have such a precise curve, with Suunto or Garmin watches and sensors. There are 2 small peaks but it’s probably when I checked my wristband to see if there was sweat and if it was tightened .
                              Outside temperature was also 13/16 Celsius so there was no sweat between my skin and the sensor.

                              I have now to test specific interval training to see the reactivity of changes, but this seems very promising.

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                                wotus Bronze Member @chrisc92
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                                @chrisc92 For longer rides like FischKona (600km) it may be not enough and I would take the endurance mode from the beginning.
                                My Ambit3p was set to GPS Good (5s fix, 30h battery life, recording intervall 10s) and the track quality was near perfect like the S9p in performance mode.
                                But now the endurance mode in S9p is not very usable for cycling, as I know it from the A3p.
                                I didn’t expect there to be such essential differences?

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @wotus
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                                  @wotus are you using HR ?

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                                    wotus Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos To have a direct comparison, I did not use HR in endurance mode on the first ride, but in the following ones, because without HR my energy consumption is usually counted with zero calories. Regardless of this, the track quality remains equally inaccurate.

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @wotus
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                                      @wotus I am asking because without HR the s9P should get you more than 30h in best.

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @wotus
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                                        @wotus is the plan to use the watch as a bike computer or as an accessory ?

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                                          wotus Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Without HR it shows me 1h more duration, this is not significant for me, but I wanted to try it out.

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                                            wotus Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos For both, I usually use an additional simple bike computer. But the plan for S9p is especially for daily recording of training data in all activities for the next 5200 units, as the old A3p has served me well since 2014. In this regard, the power saving modes sound very promising for me to try them out.

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