Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?

@eurohiker Sadly, I feel Google is going Windows Phone route with Wear OS.

Just like Microsoft cut loose their entire dwindling install base after WP 7.8 and required a new hardware to run 8.0, Google’s requirement of new hardware for 3.0 update – if this comes to pass – will be the last nail in coffin of the platform, with Samsung playing quasi Nokia of smartwatches. Coupled with Fitbit abandoning their FitbitOS on smartwatches, it’s a double whammy. Wear OS becomes a watch OS for Samsung, who effectively outsourced it’s development to Google.

I’m not sure offline Spotify and YouTube music will help much.

My first gen Apple Watch lasted a good 4-5 years and received many years of OS upgrades. Who’d want to pay more than $200 for a Wear OS smartwatch that’s get dropped after a year or two?

Claudiu79

Sunnto recently released the Sunnto 7 Titanium so not updating their watches to Wear OS 3 on these … would be a bad move for the company… A lot of disappointed / angry customers. I hope that they’ve already figured it out how to keep updating these watches for at least 2 years… and since the hardware is similar to the regular Suunto 7s (as I have)… well… or maybe I’m just day dreaming.

isazi

@claudiu79 I say chances Suunto is abandoning the S7 are extremely low.

Guillermo Ortega Cerro

@isazi

Guillermo Ortega Cerro

@isazi El S7 siempre ha sido una apuesta arriesgada. Esperemos que siga teniendo desarrollo porque recorrido tiene bastante, aún se echan en falta algunas cositas

Jamie BG

@isazi
Seems as though there is a bit of change around the original fossil comment, as some members of the reddit wear os community have contacted them to get a more “clarifying” response that they are still looking into it. So sounds a bit disjointed at the moment

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

keep in mind that there is a difference on updating a watch and updating the OS system of the watch.

Updating the OS to a new Major version is for sure not little work

Aleksander H

The verge wrote that Fossil doesn’t plan to upgrade its existing watches to the new Wear OS citing a cnet article. I read the cnet article and could find no such comment. Don’t understand how the verge could make such a claim based on what I read.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@aleksander-h it says it there

As far as budget options for these next-wave watches, McKelvey sees the most likely outcome being previous-year models eventually being discounted, much like Apple’s watch lineup tiers. Existing Fossil Google Wear watches won’t be upgradable to the new Wear OS software platform.

Aleksander H

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

As far as budget options for these next-wave watches, McKelvey sees the most likely outcome being previous-year models eventually being discounted, much like Apple’s watch lineup tiers. Existing Fossil Google Wear watches won’t be upgradable to the new Wear OS software platform.

Wow. I’m blind. I read that article twice!

I’m going to retreat now and hide for about a week until this is forgotten

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@aleksander-h I did 3 times then searched for Wear OS and read again

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@aleksander-h also

https://9to5google.com/2021/05/18/wear-os-revamp-current-models/

To my understanding it looks like Google is not done with the new WearOS stuff. I suspect that the wearOS will come with some Google watch and then later on be more open and adopted.

We are at 2021 and they promoted (again) offline music. That was there since 2014 (and they took it away)

Aleksander H

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

I suspect that the wearOS will come with some Google watch and then later on be more

Yeah, I’m guessing a joint launch of Samsung and Google watches (or at least very close to each other).

Whatever happens, at least we should all benefit from Spotify and YouTube Music getting offline music. Honestly, that was the most important thing announced for me. Shame there was no similar announcement for Google Podcast.

pilleus

I think Samsung will adapt Wear to the existing hardware and use the own processor (Exynos). Specs of the battery capacity are given and there is no improvement. Looks like the usage of the existing hardware.

The other company using not a Qualcomm processor is Casio (Exynos processor in the GSW-H1000 with exynos kernel).

Let’s see …

eurohiker

@aleksander-h doesn’t everyone that “really” wants spotify offline have it already?
All you need to do is sideload spotify lite via XDA. There’s no compromise, the media button works like it’s running the normal wear spotify app.

I go on my runs without my phone (offline map of my area), bluetooth headphone connected to the watch, playing spotify offline

Sidenote: i “forget” the headphones after every run, then re-pair them because there is no bluetooth priority feature on Android. I also turn off phone bluetooth before I pair them.
Sounds like a lot but it feels automatic and done within a minute or 2.

Jamie BG

Mobvoi has confirmed that the Ticwatch Pro 3 will get the wear update.
Interesting considering its the 4100 chip with no coprocessor (so wonder how they will work the updates to take advantage of the coprocesser).

If the 4100 can, sort of makes me think the 3100 should be able to.

Jamie BG

@eurohiker said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

@aleksander-h doesn’t everyone that “really” wants spotify offline have it already?
All you need to do is sideload spotify lite via XDA.

Most that I have seen that use it complain about it, but then seems as equally bad for Tizen users.

I find the Garmin one works a treat, but then it seems to be running through the Garmin software, rather than as a seperate app (but could be wrong about that - but think it is as use the same for Amazon music, Spotify and or your own music - you just change the source.

eurohiker

@jamie-bg give it a shot, it takes max 5 min to do, I use it daily for runs and i haven’t had a single issue for any of my past Suunto 7s. I do have an issue with pairing my headphones sometimes since I re-pair (after forgetting) them each time I run.

Spotify+Lite+1.5.84.89.36821-wearos] works the best I would post the linkfile on here but I don’t know if i’m allowed but if you search “[APP][MOD] Spotify Lite - scaled for standalone use on Wear OS xda” on google and go to post #189 page 10 it’s there.

steps:
Step1: go to settings - system - about - tap build # 7 times
Step2: go to settings - developer settings - adb debug -adb wifi debug on
step3: download apk on computer
step4: go to the folder with the APK in it “Shift + right click” open powershell
step5: go to the wifi on your watch click on it - get the ip address (should be 192.168.x.xx)
Step6: powershell type: “adb connect 192.168.x.xx:5555” (your watch ip address + the port 5555)
step7: powershell type: “adb -e install appname.apk” (type in the app name where i wrote the app name)

The instructions on the internet aren’t very clear for sideloading which is why people that don’t normally tinker with android have issue. I assure you that you will not have a single issue.

Important step i missed: Within Spotify - fill out all your info and it won’t let you log into the app, force close it, then when you open it again you will automatically be logged in. Then you pick your playlist and download offline. After you download the playlist on the offline spotify UI which is different and small font. Once you shuffle/play song it uses the WearOS spotify UI and controls.

“Mobvoi has confirmed that the Ticwatch Pro 3 will get the wear update.”

Interesting, thanks for sharing! This makes me feels better tbh since it’s usually the chinese hardware (minus oneplus) that don’t upgrade their software. While suunto is using a different chip, they are typically pretty good with updating.

Jamie BG

@eurohiker
No premium account with spotify as refuse to pay them for one, when they will not provide an app for me.

Currently use Amazon music on my Fenix 6 as have premium with them for all the echo shows in the home (my wife and kids love it) - super easy to use too (just wish it did a better job of voice recognition, but then I do have a super broad accent that even google struggles a bit with - definitely best voice recognition).
Have a set of bluetooth treblab headset - works fine no cut outs. Biggest issue is volume level is too high, high even at min levels.

Aleksander H

@jamie-bg said in Will Suunto 7 get WearOS 3.0?:

Mobvoi has confirmed that the Ticwatch Pro 3 will get the wear update.

Apparently that was a mistake/misunderstanding. https://9to5google.com/2021/06/10/no-mobvoi-hasnt-confirmed-the-wear-os-3-0-update-for-ticwatch-pro-3/

They can neither confirm nor deny it at this point.