Suunto 9 Peak

wakarimasen

@dulko79 …and with no need of an alarm in the night to get up to pee!

kk1n76

Pardon me for asking… I’m just wondering, with all the battery power during GPS tracking, why suunto 9 series cannot last more than a week in watch mode? we have 25 hour with best gps tracking, but 7-day mode only in smartwatch? (most often would be less in mixed usage).

freeheeler

@kk1n76
most likely because of the valencell sensor for 24/7 HR etc. I have switched it off and get 5-7 days with frequent activity (best GPS and HR chest strap). Without any activity it’s around 14 days

Egika

@kk1n76 said in Suunto 9 Peak:

Pardon me for asking… I’m just wondering, with all the battery power during GPS tracking, why suunto 9 series cannot last more than a week in watch mode? we have 25 hour with best gps tracking, but 7-day mode only in smartwatch? (most often would be less in mixed usage).

The question why is easy and basically physics.
The watch is using a certain energy every second to power the screen, the processor, the optical HR sensor and other sensors like pressure etc.
While most of the stuff can be switched off for most of the time it is still drawing a certain amount of energy per time. With the size of the battery given this will make your battery last for a certain time.
When recording a workout, additionally the GPS chip is powered and data displays need to be updated more frequently, while the processor needs more energy to compute the data and save it to memory.
This is why the battery lasts shorter when recording with GPS.

All variables in these equations depend on component selection. Like battery size (which influences housing size), screen resolution and backlight intensity, as well as the selection of the GPS and optical HR or BT chips.

You cannot trade battety time in GPS mode for battery time in standby mode. Especially not with one of the best GPS chips available on the market energy wise.

DMytro

@egika I think it was asked more in comparison to other brands. Even though their models not necessarily possess similar battery life, but a worse one, they are able to be used one to two weeks between charges.
I would think it’s because of sensors hardware, on s9 especially, and because of suunto os.

Egika

@дима-мельниченко i don’t have the numbers of other companies at hand.
With my words above:
It makes sense to look at the ratio: standby time / GPS time. wich for Suunto seems to be smaller than for others.
The factors goin into this equation are battery size and component consumption.
I would tend to say that Suunto is using a rather small battery (that yields a smaller standby time) but has a great GPS efficiency so is on par there.

jsuarez

The S9 peak is a very nice, beautiful and proffessional-compatible-look watch! Very nice product which I could see myself buying.

However, as regards Suunto’s full picture, it’s so sad that Suunto is not committed to bringing back the Movescount web functionality. Great HW with only phone/app SW solutions is a no-go for me. (Before anyone replies, I know about QS and other partner connections, but I demand a one-stop-shop when a buy such a pricey product. That’s my customer choice for all kinds of products).

Egika

@jsuarez interesting to hear. As my opinion is the exact contrary. I don’t like manufcturer proprietary solutions that keep me tied to their ecosystem.
I never installed the software bundle that came with printers and allowed for picture editing, scanning etc. I’ve always preferred the independent software that would work also with my next printer from maybe another company.

Same holds true for sport watches. If I changed brands I’d like to keep my data and just use the new hardware to record activities into the same platform of my choice.
QS and Strava and Trainingpeaks and all others are this kind of independent platforms that I choose according to my needs. And then every device I use just needs to be compatible.

But that’s just my preference.

Regarding snappiness of the peak, it is my impression or sometimes it renders laggy?
https://instagram.com/stories/samisauri/2582080242657679351?utm_medium=copy_link

(Non production firmware? Issue with the Instagram video ?)

lexterm77

@egika said in Suunto 9 Peak:

every device I use just needs to be compatible.

But that’s just my preference.

I want Suunto heat maps on a big 5K monitor. It is very simple to do, make SA available for Apple Silicon, just opt in like many other app developers.
No other third party can come close to it. I have premium subscription for Komoot, TP, planaroute. They don’t compare with Suunto heat map visualization.

isazi

@andré-faria said in Suunto 9 Peak:

Regarding snappiness of the peak, it is my impression or sometimes it renders laggy?
https://instagram.com/stories/samisauri/2582080242657679351?utm_medium=copy_link

(Non production firmware? Issue with the Instagram video ?)

I can’t access the story, but as you can imagine there is no “production” firmware for the S9p yet. Should come at the same time the product begins shipping.

dulko79

@andré-faria there is one short chinese review of peak on youtube-u. For a short period he browsed through menus, browsing was smooth. Software version is not clear.

lexterm77

@dulko79 said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@andré-faria there is one short chinese review of peak on youtube-u. For a short period he browsed through menus, browsing was smooth. Software version is not clear.

I hope it wasn’t sped up like speech

Prenj

@dulko79 said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@andré-faria there is one short chinese review of peak on youtube-u. For a short period he browsed through menus, browsing was smooth. Software version is not clear.

Even when scrolling pass HR screen? (haven’t seen the video) The slowdown at this screen is killing me. I hope they did something to speed it up or to let us disable it or move this screen to the last place or something…

dulko79

@lexterm77

dulko79

@prenj I think he browsed thru sports in exercise menu. Anyway, when people get and test watch with final software, performance will be more clear.

@isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@andré-faria said in Suunto 9 Peak:

Regarding snappiness of the peak, it is my impression or sometimes it renders laggy?
https://instagram.com/stories/samisauri/2582080242657679351?utm_medium=copy_link

(Non production firmware? Issue with the Instagram video ?)

I can’t access the story, but as you can imagine there is no “production” firmware for the S9p yet. Should come at the same time the product begins shipping.

Story is not there anymore.
Thanks for clearing up. As the shipping is on 17th of june I would believe the firmware is already from prod.

Dušan Ković

Have any of the testers present on the forum tried S9P with bigger winter gloves? During skiing or mountaineering? I’m interested did any of you had any problems with smaller watch and smaller buttons? Tnx

Brad_Olwin

@andré-faria Read @isazi post, it is correct.

Brad_Olwin

@dušan-ković said in Suunto 9 Peak:

Have any of the testers present on the forum tried S9P with bigger winter gloves? During skiing or mountaineering? I’m interested did any of you had any problems with smaller watch and smaller buttons? Tnx

Yes, I have used the Peak extensively for SkiMo with heavy gloves. The buttons are more difficult to press than the S9. But having said that, I had issues using the same gloves with the S9, I could often hit the wrong button and pause the watch. With lighter gloves or liners the buttons can easily be pressed. I did not find it as much a problem as I thought it would be.

Smaller watch? No, in fact, the ambient backlight on the S9 Peak makes Winter use much easier as I do not have to fiddle with backlight settings to see in predawn starts. Also, the higher contrast makes the watch easier to see even though smaller. When wearing both my S9 baro and the Peak I wore the Peak on my left hand (normal for my watch wearing) because it was the screen I wanted to use the most.