Serious BUG in calories, PTE, recovery

[Aleksander H]

@tomas5 do you know if the watch was picking up false HR reading while it was lying on the table?

[Tomas5]

@surfboomerang yeah, it can be problem on this part, but still i took it of my wrist only after i pressed pause. Should’t be this part of exercise when it is paused excluded from stats ? I would not usually take it off my hand while paused, but I was afraid to repair washing machine with watch on my hand

[Tomas5]

@aleksander-h I came to stop it after some time because I saw that HR light was all the time on. So just to save battery I decited to stop because I knew it can take more than hour before I return to finish excercise. I don’t know if it was recording some values or not while on table, but definitely it was glowing all the time.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

There is also metabolic rate included that is included in pauses. (Total time).

I am asking why PTE etc are cal;culated during pauses

[Tomas5]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos 607d0accd93e6a2433986ad6.fit

Here is fit file if this can help. Exported directly from suunto app.

I did exactly this:

Started excercise (indoor light excercise with WHR).
Paused excercise after 7 minutes and took watch off my wrist.
After some time, don’t know exact time but 10-40minuts I stoped already paused excercise.

Funny part that only from 7 minutes of light excercise I shoud rest 7 hours and from same excercise later but longer 14 minutes I should rest 0 hours. Something definitely wrong here.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@tomas5 yeah pauses are included in the HR calculation. In a way this is normal because HR does get recorded during a pause, but not sure if that is expected.

Also the FIT file has clipped the data outside pauses for partners

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@tomas5 I got an answer. This is by design. CAlories doe get accounted during a pause if WHR is used as the calories come from the HR

[Aleksander H]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos makes sense really. It’s not like our body stops because we clicked pause.

Let’s say you go running in the mountains for 6 hours, and you had a 30 min break in the middle. Your body would still probably be working pretty hard during that rest, and that should probably be taken into account.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@aleksander-h the key here is HR based I suppose. I am not sure if I am 100% agreeing with this but also sounds logical

[Aleksander H]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Serious BUG in calories, PTE, recovery:

I am not sure if I am 100% agreeing with this but also sounds logical

Personally I think the problem here is there isn’t a clear cut right and wrong. It’s more a subjective opinion. In my mind it makes sense, but I totally get why others would disagree.

[Tomas5]

@aleksander-h Yes it makes perfect sense while some activity, but I was doing really low power stretching like excercises. With low average HR, low maximum HR and low effort while another days when I do this excercise uninterupted I burn around 150 - 200 kcal so it was really too much off when I saw 325 only from 7 minutes of ligtest part of excercise.

[Mff73]

@tomas5
but maybe WHR measurements while watch not worn are not so relieable thus calories neither (like some users were able to measure bananas HR).
So it is really a use case … specific.

[Tomas5]

@mff73 yes, I expected zero reading when off wrist.

Edited: now it is confirmed that HR made some high readings when off wrist and thats reason for high calories and PTE.