Update time in Europe?

Nigel Taylor 0

In the Resources display, should the Active, Inactive & Stressed times be different shades (similar to how recovering is green) ??

As it is, the graph feels like “Recovering vs Everything Else” - its difficult to get a proper context of the other categories across the day…seeing them tagged in the graph would surely be a better approach than simply having the list of numbers? I think just other shades of grey would help with comprehension - maybe it should be…>
Active - Grey as-is
Inactive - Lighter Grey
Stressed - Red
Recovering - Green (as-is)

The graph in the app should also carry the “activity icon” (where you’ve done a workout) and “sleep” icons along the y=0 axis, just as it does in the Watch tile.
That would enable a glance which differentiates ‘active’ (I assume this is just general ‘moving around’ and causes resource drain) from ‘activity’ (an actual workout) - they’d show grey in the chart, but you’d get the little icon and a short line along the bottom tagging your runs/cycles etc.

Aleksander H

@nigel-taylor-0 said in Update time in Europe?:

Active - Grey as-is
Inactive - Lighter Grey

I feel this is already differentiated with the running man icon and the dot under the bar it applies to.

Stressed - Red

How would one define if a bar should be red or not? We will always have some degree of stress surely? I feel stress would be better off as its own tile showing how stressed we are throughout the day.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nigel-taylor-0 resources go up or down. Green vs gray. Stressed and active and inactive can all be at the same 30min interval that each bar represents

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos i only have activity, steps and calories in my diary .
Ist there a difference between the IOS and Android App?
Where are these icons (sleep, rescources etc) hiding?

Thanks for your help.

Suunto 7 with the new update and IOS App

isazi

@julian-neher in the home screen, swipe left for the daily view, then click on “Today”.

DMytro

Is there actually a plan to update resources and sleep tracking algorithms on S5/S9? That would be cool.

@isazi okay there i can watch the diagrams (heartrate etc.) for the actual day. But i want to see the heartrate diagram for the last few days? is this possible? Like the sleep diagram in the screenshot from @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos further above.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@julian-neher tap on a day in the calender (the colored bubble)

olymay

I’m really liking the update so far.

I compared the sleep tracking last night to my Withings Sleep Analyser and it was within a few minutes for the total, and the HR was almost identical for max and min. Very impressive.

The things I would like…

A more detailed breakdown of the nights sleep. It’s nice to have x% deep, x% REM, etc, but I would like to see WHEN those periods happened. The Withings can do this and whilst it’s essential, it can be handy to see if and when anything affected my sleep during the night (has helped me make changes in the past).

Also, when I woke up this morning, I was awake and moving around (checking phone, getting dressed etc) and when I went to check my sleep on my watch it asked me to confirm I was awake. Does this mean I have to manually tell it I am awake each morning? Or is the watch simply learning my patterns?
If I have to manually change it each morning then I will often forget to do this and means it will be useless to me.

(Strangely, I actually had a really bad night sleep last night yet both my Withings and Suunto said I had a great night and should expect to feel energised today - I don’t, I feel tired and rubbish! Further proof these things should be taken with a pinch of salt and not relied upon, they are more indication and trends i think)

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

Does this mean I have to manually tell it I am awake each morning? Or is the watch simply learning my patterns?

to avoid registering sleep when you just let it on the table and shower

olymay

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Update time in Europe?:

@olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

Does this mean I have to manually tell it I am awake each morning? Or is the watch simply learning my patterns?

to avoid registering sleep when you just let it on the table and shower

The Suunto knows it has been taken off though, it could do this before the update (all WearOS devices can detect this). Within seconds of removing my watch it would ask for the screen pattern to unlock (a great security feature which protects Goole Pay).

So I would not expect the S7 to think I was asleep if it was on a table.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos okay but there is still only the day view. Is there no heartrate diagram for the last x days?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@julian-neher the update is out yesterday so I suppose no.

olymay

@olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

The things I would like…

A more detailed breakdown of the nights sleep. It’s nice to have x% deep, x% REM, etc, but I would like to see WHEN those periods happened. The Withings can do this and whilst it’s essential, it can be handy to see if and when anything affected my sleep during the night (has helped me make changes in the past).

I’ve found one way to get this breakdown view of the sleep stages!

It shows it really well in the Google Fit app

I’d rather see it in the Suunto app, so I’m hoping there is a way to do this.

Aleksander H

@olymay I uninstalled Google Fit as I got to frustrated with it. Are both sleep and hr being synced over from the Suunto app?

Egika

@aleksander-h yes. And Google Fit is asking extra permissions from the Suunto App to sync the sleep data.

olymay

@aleksander-h said in Update time in Europe?:

@olymay I uninstalled Google Fit as I got to frustrated with it. Are both sleep and hr being synced over from the Suunto app?

Google Fit is far from perfect, but I really like that it collates my data from various sources into one place (less important now that Suunto tracks my sleep however).
It also means that if I change services in the future (although the way things are going I will be with Suunto for a long time to come!) then I still have easy access to all of my data.

The sleep data is perfectly synced from Suunto to Google Fit (and GF is seeing that rather than my Withings data).

HR data doesn’t look like it has synced yet, but that might be because I haven’t turned off the Google Fit HR monitoring in the watch app. I’ll change this and see what happens.
Maybe someone with more experience can advise?

The only thing missing now is weight tracking in the Suunto App (and ideally auto importing from something like Withings or Google Fit).

Aleksander H

@olymay said in Update time in Europe?:

The only thing missing now is weight tracking in the Suunto App (and ideally auto importing from something like Withings or Google Fit).

I have a Withings scale. Would be great if measurements just went straight into the Suunto app via Google Fit. That would get me to reinstall the app .

Has Google Fit fixed the issue where we can’t delete workouts that originate from third-party apps? This was the issue that made me wipe my data and uninstall.

Egika

@aleksander-h @olymay
can you elaborate on the usefulness of a weight scale syncing data anywhere?
Does your weight change that quickly?
I am checking my weight every now and then and it has been constant für 2 years… I set it in the watch or app once - why would I need a frequent update (that has any impact on other things)? Even if I was 500g lighter in the morning and 500g heavier in the afternoon, that should not make a big difference…?
Please enlighten me.

olymay

@aleksander-h said in Update time in Europe?:

I have a Withings scale. Would be great if measurements just went straight into the Suunto app via Google Fit. That would get me to reinstall the app .

These scales really are great! I’m less concerned by the absolute figures and only pay attention to the trend line. And I can step on and forget, no need to actually read the numbers on the screen (which is handy as I do it in the morning and I’m not often fully awake at that point )

Has Google Fit fixed the issue where we can’t delete workouts that originate from third-party apps? This was the issue that made me wipe my data and uninstall.

Not as far as I can see. Never needed to do it myself, but I can see how this could be frustrating.