Software update 2.12.30 Staged Release for S3/S5/S9

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Luís-Pinto GPS or GPS+BEIDOU for me. BEIDOU ensures no signal loss, adding a little bit more detail, and GPS looks smooth but scary if in canyons and signal can be lost.

[northeast_trekker]

Just tried out the Suunto+ Sprint (running pace) mode…is very cool and worked to add some random intervals in the middle of the run. I liked how it showed the warmup, counted the reps and still showed overall workout stats on that screen too. Very nice implementation.

Suunto does say in the user guide that with GPS on expect a delay, however why shouldn’t for this purpose the accelerometer alone via cadence be used for activation? if there isn’t a warning about that lag indoors or with GPS off, it seems it would be quicker and I agree that sounds logical as well since it is more direct data and might not take as long to compute. Just my 2c as it would be very cool to have laps that more tightly “snapped” to your efforts…I realize a lot of these features are complex in backend and there are considerations like, ideally all runners maintain 180 spm just with faster speeds their stride length increases etc but I think most runners in practice would show a variance.

Interested to hear your thoughts!

https://www.suunto.com/en-us/Support/Product-support/suunto_9/suunto_9/suuntoplus/suuntoplus-sprint---running-pace--cycling-power/

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@northeast_trekker there is not a delay to compensate for the GPS (you could have been using stryd) there is a delay to compensate for false positives

[Luís Pinto]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos that is a important info. That makes sense!

[Rob33]

The new functions, in particular those of Suunto +, are really interesting …
Ideas for improving Suunto + functions:
-Possibility to display several functions at the same time (at least 2)
-possibility of launching a function after starting an activity (or even changing function during an activity)
-possibility of choosing the order of the screens (currently last screen)
-possibility of assigning (and removing) a function to a type of activity without having to do it for each new activity

-at the display level at the end of an activity, for the Suunto Climb it appears the number of climbs. But when we consult the laps, it appears the climbs and descents. When there are a lot of them we get lost, we no longer know what corresponds to the climbs and descents.
I think that the reading would be easier by separating the 2 or identifying them with a sign.
It’s a bit the same principle for Suunto Sprint.

[Jugger]

Not sure if right topic but does anyone else have problem with alti/pressure menu restart after latest update? My watch S9B has restarted four times in one week when I enter alti/pressure menu. Twice it went to update state (downward arrow with four dots) which needed soft reset and twice just restarted. This happens after one or two days not everytime.

Otherwise everything else works just fine.

[cosme.costa]

Regarding the new outdoors watchface, if you are in the view of the remaining time to next sun sunrise/sunset, during the day you have the battery level indicator which is nice and I always want to know my battery level, but at night you have the moon phases which it is also ok but there is no battery level indicator. I thought that under 20/15% we will get some warning or icon showing the battery level but it is not the case. In my opinion under certain level of battery 15/20% the watch should show the battery level. Now I am 8% and nothing is shown so you can get a bit “fucked” if you are not aware of your battery level. With this watch face is plenty of room in the screen to show also the battery level all the time, during day and night, for example under the rim numbers.

And regarding all the watchfaces, why the can show a small icon when an alarm is set? I mean you set an alarm an nothing is shown in the watchface, you have to press the middle button to know if there is an alarm enabled.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@cosmecosta agreed with the battery.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Jugger I am not having this issue but have attempted this and no crashes.

[Dušan Ković]

I went in the mountains on the weekend and I think I found a bug. After the exercise summary showed graphs that had a flat line from certain point. But in the SA everything is fine. I see normal altitude and HR graphs. So, I’m guessing it is a bug on the watch

[sartoric]

@Dušan-Ković
Did you pause it at the end ?

[Dušan Ković]

@sartoric no, I ended exercise normally. That flat line doesn’t exist in SA. In the log book it shows all graphs as they should look

[Dušan Ković]

Here are full graphs:

Another thing that I noticed, that altitude jumped from 2173m on S9B (official peak height is 2170m) to 2191m. Before height jump I paused watch for a short break just to chill on the peak, after the pause the height jumpe happened

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Dušan-Ković was the excersise saved correctly ? Some reboot ?

If this happens again check the baro graph 12h. If a reboot happened it should be reset. (in time mode)

I also wonder what happens if you reboot the watch now regarding the charts.

The only thing about the altitude jump that I can think of, would be during the pause the temperature increasing , and that being registered as altitude. If that is the case, something is condensed inside the sensor. And with temperature it can affect the sensor. Or the sensors doesn’t react and it’s driven by temperature mostly. You can see on qs , the pause and what happened if you use a time axis. (Although I do see the jump)

[Jugger]

@Brad_Olwin I don’t know if factory reset would fix this. Something is causing it and I have no idea what. Like I said before everything else is working just fine. Could new watchface cause it? I use it now. This never happened with previous version.

A bit offtopic but do I lose VO2max value or anything else if I try factory reset or can I sync everything back with Suunto app?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Jugger Vo2max wont sync back or basically anything from the Suunto app. Unfortunatly the most important you will loose is sport mode customization + zones config + body config.

Vo2max will be the same after a few of trainings at max

[Brad_Olwin]

@Jugger I assume you have tried a soft reset? A hard reset will erase settings and some history. You will restart VO2 max.

[Jugger]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @Brad_Olwin Thank you for fast answer. It’s nothing too serious problem but annoying to see barometric graph reset occasionally. I don’t lose any activities so I can live with it.

I did few soft reset because watch got stuck in update screen even without cable.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Jugger I would suggest if it doesn’t help for a soft reset to solve this issue, a full reset. If that is an issue I’ll help you to get your watch replaced. It can be that something is not well inside there.

[Jugger]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Ok! I’ll wait still if I have to reboot again. I tried to get reboot by will but it happens only random… maybe tomorrow again. If it happens again I’ll try hard reset.