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    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
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      While we all know that Suunto is superior to any other sportswatch brand, it’s usually a matter of personal opinion. However, today, I’d like to present an indisputable fact that Suunto is a leader in technology race as it invented and made available in their products a time travel implementation!

      Jokes aside:

      Today I went on a small walk and had it recorded. It was strange that I got a fix after around 30 seconds while I usually have a fix in under 5 seconds. I was curious to track precision after it took so long for first fix and after checking it in SA there were way more errors than usually with GPS + Beidou. I usually get very good precision - there’s no problem in recording on which side of the road I’m walking, even in urban areas but today it was poor.

      So I went to check AGPS status and I saw that indeed there’s AGPS but from tomorrow (today is 2020-08-21) 😄

      IMG_20200821_114830.jpg

      Normally I would disregard it as too minor to write about but perhaps it’s related to this bug?

      I’ll see if the watch will go bananas tomorrow as it tries to get AGPS with tomorrow’s date.

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        @Łukasz-Szmigiel I have the same

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          I had 22-08-2020 this morning. Doing now a reboot (that wipes out aGPS) to see whats going on

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          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
            Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos why is that? Is it due to time zones mismatch (ie. AGPS displaying GMT-8 or something similar)?

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              @Łukasz-Szmigiel no that should not be it. The timestamp etc is sent via Sony. Suunto has little interaction there.

              Other people (as I raised this as critical) on Suunto have 21.08.2020.

              So it can be a glitch but I am investigating (and Suunto)

              If you reboot the watch and sync via the app ?

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              • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos hm I can soft reset but then I won’t be able to check if it’s related to this as you suspected it might be related to GPS time.

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                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel Good one

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                  • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                    Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos just in case, logs from today, no soft-reset, after writing this post:

                    270818656532800

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                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel I also did one. It was fixed. I’ll send the logs.

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                        @Łukasz-Szmigiel now that I remember:

                        Sony has done this again.

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                        • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                          Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I’m curious what will happen tomorrow after the watch tries to get AGPS from 22nd while having 22nd in memory.

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                          • MarynM Offline
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                            same here, agps from future 🙂

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                              @Łukasz-Szmigiel nothing I suppose

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                                Looks like it was sony.

                                At least our watches didn’t get "affected " aka no gps

                                Screenshot_20200822-081727.jpg

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                                • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos interesting! I had a run today with no issues. Also the watch didn’t go boo boo as I suspected it might.

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                                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel I have seen these glitches with the agps from sony.

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                                    • MarynM Offline
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                                      My gps track wasn’t as good on 21.08 as always, but it wasn’t very bad either 🙂
                                      By the way in the last few days I run every day and observe a slight deterioration for the gps mode itself.

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                                      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                        Łukasz Szmigiel @Maryn
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                                        @Maryn I’m sticking with Beidou. It’s most reliable and there are plenty of satellites available, at last above Poland. And battery use isn’t bad either.

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                                        • MarynM Offline
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                                          I used beidou but sometimes I had a slight shift so I went back to GPS for a while. Today I will try again with Beidou 🙂

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                                          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                            Łukasz Szmigiel @Maryn
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                                            @Maryn I think that those shifts may be related to how the GPS chip is processing position using GNSS data and hand movement. Notice how offsets are often reset when you change direction.

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