Training load trend & Recovery

Gábor Tóth

Hi there, I would like to ask, is it possible to follow or see the training load trend or cumulative load and the estimated recovery hours calculated from it in SA as well?

Stefan Kersting

Looking forward to the implementation of this in SA. there are several functions in MC which should be accessible in SA too

margusl

If you need or want fitness/fatigue/form score trends, it’s probably worth evaluating few 3rd party services or tools for that and not putting too much hope on Suunto App developments. Currently Ambit users can’t even adjust HR zones and this is one of the corner stones for such trends.
Few examples where you can start using this right now: Runalayze, Training Peaks, Elevate for Strava, Strava subscription, Golden Cheetah, …

-e-
Must say I’m not exactly a fan of Movescount training load trend, here I have the same time period with same activities from Elevate & MC, MC may miss few. I’d say for long term (30-day cumulative load) MC implementation is quite poor. For short term (7-day cumulative load) it’s just slightly better, but not something I’d care to use for making training decisions.

Stefan Kersting

Here we go! The restitution in hours sis shown in the sports tracker app, ok very rudimentary. But why is this one missing in SA?

isazi

@stefan-kersting not sure about Norwegian, but I believe training load (or similar) is coming to new version of SA soon (it was hinted at in a previous survey).

isazi

@isazi https://forum.suunto.com/topic/5493/latest-survey

This topic can help you also https://forum.suunto.com/topic/520/additional-external-tools?_=1611236901187

Personally I use intervals.icu for that

Brad_Olwin

@gábor-tóth The MC version as @margusl stated in my opinion is not very good. Training Peaks I find excellent and I have heard Golden Cheetah is very good too. I am not a fan of the implementation on Runalyze either but this is my personal opinion. The best option here would be to allow 3rd party sync of training load/fatigue, etc. Then most of us get what we want. What I have been pushing for.

fazel

@brad_olwin Agree 100%. If Suunto can do integration with TP its a no-brainer.

fazel

@brad_olwin Here’s a short summary of Golden Cheetah’s metrics. They use Skiba’s stuff, which I find comparable to Coggan’s. These are for the bike, but he has similar metrics for swim and run.

https://science4performance.com/tag/bikescore/

Gábor Tóth

@brad_olwin The Runalyze method seems quite unrealsitic for me as well, as several times happend that a few days of hiking elevated the fitness level more, than 2 months of training in running (maybe i am training wrong ) thanks for the options i will check on the other solutions, until the SA will come up with some relevant options.