Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?

Brad_Olwin

@sebchastang said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@Brad_Olwin You are right, but as elevation is no more available in MC, I cannot use it anymore for route planning. Even if I create a new route in a third party app or website, when I import a GPX in movescount, ascent and descent are not displayed. It is only available once I transferred the route into my watch.
As lohtse wrote, it is not comfortable to use third party apps and MC handled route creation perfectly until now.

What is the issue with 3rd party websites? They work well and allow easy importing. Agreed that MC elevation data needs fixing.

Frances Christie

Having used Suunto products for 22 years all I can say is that the new app does compare to the Movescount Web App with the level of detail. Suunto need to produce a web app or I can see the transition to a Garmin Fenix coming. Been brand loyal for most of my life.

Kevin

stromdiddily

@lohtse I must have missed it. Fairly confident the last communication stated that Movescount would remain for watch settings updates and route creation/syncing for Ambit series watches.

You read something I haven’t?

Fenr1r

@Brad_Olwin said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

What is the issue with 3rd party websites?

In no particular priority order, here are a few:

Privacy for data. The more you share, the more you gamble with the security standards and ethics of the 3rd parties. Added secret holders, geometrically increased risk of divulgence, etc.
Extra layer of hassle beyond mere syncing. You know how you like the effortless routing & distance metrics of the Sx? That. (But for the analysis process.)
Reliably watch-ready routes, simply & immediately synced.
The belief that an in-house service has more permanence = overall product support from an enduring manufacturer rather than a purely web project which might well expire long before the watch. I’m sure you can remember a few of the latter in other areas.

3 & 4 suffer a bit from the Movescount example.

lohtse

@stromdiddily said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse I must have missed it. Fairly confident the last communication stated that Movescount would remain for watch settings updates and route creation/syncing for Ambit series watches.

You read something I haven’t?

Had a conversation on phone to tech support. I asked about mini apps and what will happen with them. They stated that they would end when movescount is fazed out.

And besides… We could change settings and sports modes in the app… Now we have to use a web browser… so instead of it being nice and simply and quick it will take time… So changing things on the fly is now a pain… even doing this on the watch it’s self is not idea and takes more time than it did in the app…

This is the issue. And I would love to know why this could not be added to the Suunto App.

sebchastang

@lohtse said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@stromdiddily said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse I must have missed it. Fairly confident the last communication stated that Movescount would remain for watch settings updates and route creation/syncing for Ambit series watches.

You read something I haven’t?

Had a conversation on phone to tech support. I asked about mini apps and what will happen with them. They stated that they would end when movescount is fazed out.

So sad to read that…

lohtse

@sebchastang said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@stromdiddily said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse I must have missed it. Fairly confident the last communication stated that Movescount would remain for watch settings updates and route creation/syncing for Ambit series watches.

You read something I haven’t?

Had a conversation on phone to tech support. I asked about mini apps and what will happen with them. They stated that they would end when movescount is fazed out.

So sad to read that…

Yep thats one of the reasons I have been complaining so much here on the forum…Movescount works…yet is being discontinued… You will require sunnto app and access to movescount web(until closed) and third party website/apps to do what we onces could and even then it will nolonger be a fully functioning watch. With the move to suunto app I have too install additional apps so I can use MY HRM one the phone where I once could use it in the movescount app… We have to install an app that has virtually no functionally with are watches other than too sync data…yet is quite large once install, so is taking up valuable space without giving much back.And to do what we could with the movescount system(app/wed) you will have to install further apps which waste even more space… We have LOST far too much usability and functionality and we will NEVER get it back… THANK YOU FOR NOTHING SUUNTO

stromdiddily

@lohtse yeah, losing the apps does suck. I never used them but can definitely understand the frustration there.

I honestly don’t remember, were we able to actually update watch settings directly in the Movescount app? Or did the app just allow for updates made on the browser to sync automatically/via bluetooth?

I’m with you on not fully grasping while any of these sync technology can’t be ported over to the app. Perhaps viewed as throw away work that they’re not willing to commit resources to.

sebchastang

@stromdiddily said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse yeah, losing the apps does suck. I never used them but can definitely understand the frustration there.

I honestly don’t remember, were we able to actually update watch settings directly in the Movescount app?

@stromdiddily Yes, it was possible, at least for the Traverse. But I used to customize sport modes through movescount.com (more comfortable on a big screen)

stromdiddily

@sebchastang I imagine same was possible then for Ambit series. Cheers!

Prenj

@stromdiddily said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

I honestly don’t remember, were we able to actually update watch settings directly in the Movescount app? Or did the app just allow for updates made on the browser to sync automatically/via bluetooth?

Both. But for routes and POI-s just the browser and sync by BT or cable.

lohtse

@stromdiddily said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse yeah, losing the apps does suck. I never used them but can definitely understand the frustration there.

I honestly don’t remember, were we able to actually update watch settings directly in the Movescount app? Or did the app just allow for updates made on the browser to sync automatically/via bluetooth?

I’m with you on not fully grasping while any of these sync technology can’t be ported over to the app. Perhaps viewed as throw away work that they’re not willing to commit resources to.

Yes you could change settings in the app for Ambit 3s, Same as you could use foot pods,bike pods and HR Monitirs Directly in the app with out the need to connect it to the watch, something that has not been added to the lovely useless Suunto App…

Something else that is bothering me…Why can’t we have a fully functioning movescount web and Suunto App??? Not perfect but better than it is going to be, At least we would keep full functionality of the watches…

keight

@lohtse don’t think so, i’ve used SportsTracker as free online, pretty basic tool to track my run with my phone before i had my Ambit3 few years ago. And i had paired up Movescout with SportsTracker. But agree: SportsTracker, as well as SuuntoApp is sooo basic, nothing to compare to Movescout online.

lohtse

@keight said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse don’t think so, i’ve used SportsTracker as free online, pretty basic tool to track my run with my phone before i had my Ambit3 few years ago. And i had paired up Movescout with SportsTracker. But agree: SportsTracker, as well as SuuntoApp is sooo basic, nothing to compare to Movescout online.

go have a look at this https://quantified-self.io/ blood excellent in my opinion… Just a shame it had to be done…

Nigel Foxhall

@lohtse
Guys I’m totally new to this forum so would appreciate some clarification. I have been an Ambit3 Sport user for some Time now and love the watch. I synced via Movescount And then collected all my training into Training Peaks. Very happy customer !
Now I tried SuuntoApp and have
a) no data from my vector3 power pedals (it’s definitely still stored on the watch but not synced to the App and so I don’t get it in Training Peaks
b) my swim data used to keep only moving time in Movescount. Now with SuuntoApp it’s total time only. This means all the TSS calls in Training Peaks are worthless.

Are these issues known or am I doing something stupid ?
Will a newer Suunto watch solve these issues ?
Should I just change to Polar and forget Suunto (not because of the watch but because of SuuntoApp)?

lohtse

@Nigel-Foxhall said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

@lohtse
Guys I’m totally new to this forum so would appreciate some clarification. I have been an Ambit3 Sport user for some Time now and love the watch. I synced via Movescount And then collected all my training into Training Peaks. Very happy customer !
Now I tried SuuntoApp and have
a) no data from my vector3 power pedals (it’s definitely still stored on the watch but not synced to the App and so I don’t get it in Training Peaks
b) my swim data used to keep only moving time in Movescount. Now with SuuntoApp it’s total time only. This means all the TSS calls in Training Peaks are worthless.

Are these issues known or am I doing something stupid ?
Will a newer Suunto watch solve these issues ?
Should I just change to Polar and forget Suunto (not because of the watch but because of SuuntoApp)?

welcome

Sadly you are not being stupid…Suunto does not sseem to think ambit owners need that data anylonger try using https://quantified-self.io/

now idea about newer watch.,… but then you should not have to change when it worked perfectly before Suunto screwed us…

amasidlover

@Nigel-Foxhall said in Ambit 3 Peak : Keep Movescount or change for SUUNTO app ?:

a) no data from my vector3 power pedals (it’s definitely still stored on the watch but not synced to the App and so I don’t get it in Training Peaks

This is known and a fix is being worked on according to @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos - I haven’t seen an ETA for the fix.

Not sure about the swimming one; although that will be a real nuisance for me since at least with power I can use the files from my cycling head unit (messy workflow but better than nothing…)

Interestingly Movescount App worked all day for me yesterday and is still working today - I don’t plan on switching until either Movescount App refuses to work or the power (and now swimming…) bugs are fixed.

Janfi

@amasidlover Hoping that they definitively forgot to turn off the MC App server side, as they forgot to turn off movescount study and as they forgot old customer care
As this I love the digital transition

isazi

@Janfi apparently the transition will be longer, and they are not shutting down everything yesterday as planned.

Bulkan

@michaeldwilson enjoy running with the web interface!