When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA

[Vinay Menon]

Perhaps a tad controversial but I think Suunto 7 is at best a good BETA. It has pretty much the very, very basic of features and I’d love to know when we should expect it to be a proper running watch. One with route imports, decent running metrics, decent battery life etc.

[sartoric]

@Vinay-Menon said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

it to be a proper running watch.

Well, probably never as it is supposed to be a smartwatch with sport functionalities.
That said it doesn’t mean you can’t use it, but what do you suppose it should “do” to be “proper” ?
How much should last the battery to be “decent” ?

[Vinay Menon]

@sartoric So I am being realistic here. The battery life is fine for daily use in that I have to charge it once a day. Not a deal breaker for me per se. With GPS usage it ought to last at last 6 hours ideally with the screen on (perhaps not in all its glory but with key metrics).

For other things to make it “proper”:

1. Support for imported routes. Why it got taken off the released version, I don’t know
2. Additional, data screens for pace, duration, distance, cadence - all the data is there I presume
3. Configurable data screens - for e.g. I see the elevation chart while trail running but not road running (why?!)
4. Integration with sensors - the optical HR is OK but why not support external HRMs?
5. Support for structured workouts

Finally (and unrelated to the watch), will someone do something to improve the god-awful SportsTracker website?!

I do love the watch and I think it has so much potential.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Vinay-Menon said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

@sartoric So I am being realistic here. The battery life is fine for daily use in that I have to charge it once a day. Not a deal breaker for me per se. With GPS usage it ought to last at last 6 hours ideally with the screen on (perhaps not in all its glory but with key metrics).

For other things to make it “proper”:

1. Support for imported routes. Why it got taken off the released version, I do1. n’t know
2. Additional, data screens for pace, duration, distance, cadence - all the data is there I presume
3. Configurable data screens - for e.g. I see the elevation chart while trail running but not road running (why?!)
4. Integration with sensors - the optical HR is OK but why not support external HRMs?
5. Support for structured workouts

Finally (and unrelated to the watch), will someone do something to improve the god-awful SportsTracker website?!

I do love the watch and I think it has so much potential.

Here are some replies:

1. Hopefully this will come
2. Again, I hope Suunto implements this
3. Same as 2.
4. Not likely as the battery life is dependent on the co-processor mode and direct BT connections do not permit this
5. Suunto is unlikely to support this in any of their watches, if you search you will find endless discussion of this.
6. Battery life with screen always on will be poor, it is fact because of the power the screen needs when all is on.

[Vinay Menon]

@Brad_Olwin If Suunto implement 1-3 I think we are well on to a pretty decent Sportswatch/Smartwatch compromise. Re: the always on screen - I think basic metrics (distance, duration, pace) while running would be great. These needn’t be refreshed every second. The kind of display that shows when showing the time in the always-on mode. At the moment, it is all or nothing.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Vinay-Menon Agree with you about the screen, I have also requested this. Good idea!

[Bulkan]

@Brad_Olwin The lack of support of Stryd makes very difficult to me use these watch running. I love it for almost everything.

I agree about the routes and data fields.

But say BETA state I don’t agree.

[Vinay Menon]

@Bulkan Good that we agree on something and absolutely fine that we don’t agree on others!

[Michał Muszyński]

@Brad_Olwin 4 - - I did tests using the SPORTYGO application and I did not notice that the watch would use a lot more battery than in Suunto mode. It always remains as the user’s choice

[aeroild]

I assume that the Suunto Wear app also can run on the main processor, then couldn’t using or not using an external sensor be the choice of the user? There could maybe be a warning that using an external sensor will greatly reduce battery life. I would use the integrated HR sensor when running and trekking in summertime and an external sensor when running and skiing in wintertime. And I would accept that the watch would run out of battery faster when using an external sensor.

[Bulkan]

@Michał-Muszyński That’s it, let us choice, specially the sensor support.

[Michał Muszyński]

Google Fit allows you to connect to an external heart rate sensor This is in the settings options

[aeroild]

@Michał-Muszyński Yeah, but this is a Suunto watch and I want to use Suunto

[Michał Muszyński]

Malicious attention to Suunto

[Michał Muszyński]

I did the test.

I launched “crosfit” activity in the Suunto app - time 45min battery consumption 5%

I started the “crosfit” activity in the Googel Fit application with an external Wahoo Ticker belt, the watch lay on the table - time 33min - battery consumption 4%

[Bulkan]

@Michał-Muszyński said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

I did the test.

I launched “crosfit” activity in the Suunto app - time 45min battery consumption 5%

I started the “crosfit” activity in the Googel Fit application with an external Wahoo Ticker belt, the watch lay on the table - time 33min - battery consumption 4%

What kind of magic are you doing?

[Michał Muszyński]

@Bulkan I do not understand ?

[Brad_Olwin]

@Michał-Muszyński said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

I did the test.

I launched “crosfit” activity in the Suunto app - time 45min battery consumption 5%

I started the “crosfit” activity in the Googel Fit application with an external Wahoo Ticker belt, the watch lay on the table - time 33min - battery consumption 4%

This is not necessarily that surprising, engaging GPS will dramatically change the outcome.

[Egika]

@Brad_Olwin why would GPS be engaged for a crossfit activity?

[A Former User]

@Brad_Olwin As will a screen lighting up… I’d imagine a watch display while sitting on the table will be blank, or close to it. Also, maybe it’s me but I find any watch normally draws less power when using HR over BLE than lighting up all those OHR LEDs. At the very least, they are about equal.