When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA

aeroild

I assume that the Suunto Wear app also can run on the main processor, then couldn’t using or not using an external sensor be the choice of the user? There could maybe be a warning that using an external sensor will greatly reduce battery life. I would use the integrated HR sensor when running and trekking in summertime and an external sensor when running and skiing in wintertime. And I would accept that the watch would run out of battery faster when using an external sensor.

Bulkan

@Michał-Muszyński That’s it, let us choice, specially the sensor support.

Michał Muszyński

Google Fit allows you to connect to an external heart rate sensor This is in the settings options

aeroild

@Michał-Muszyński Yeah, but this is a Suunto watch and I want to use Suunto

Michał Muszyński

Malicious attention to Suunto

Michał Muszyński

I did the test.

I launched “crosfit” activity in the Suunto app - time 45min battery consumption 5%

I started the “crosfit” activity in the Googel Fit application with an external Wahoo Ticker belt, the watch lay on the table - time 33min - battery consumption 4%

Bulkan

@Michał-Muszyński said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

I did the test.

I launched “crosfit” activity in the Suunto app - time 45min battery consumption 5%

I started the “crosfit” activity in the Googel Fit application with an external Wahoo Ticker belt, the watch lay on the table - time 33min - battery consumption 4%

What kind of magic are you doing?

Michał Muszyński

@Bulkan I do not understand ?

Brad_Olwin

@Michał-Muszyński said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

I did the test.

I launched “crosfit” activity in the Suunto app - time 45min battery consumption 5%

I started the “crosfit” activity in the Googel Fit application with an external Wahoo Ticker belt, the watch lay on the table - time 33min - battery consumption 4%

This is not necessarily that surprising, engaging GPS will dramatically change the outcome.

Egika

@Brad_Olwin why would GPS be engaged for a crossfit activity?

@Brad_Olwin As will a screen lighting up… I’d imagine a watch display while sitting on the table will be blank, or close to it. Also, maybe it’s me but I find any watch normally draws less power when using HR over BLE than lighting up all those OHR LEDs. At the very least, they are about equal.

Brad_Olwin

@Egika said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

@Brad_Olwin why would GPS be engaged for a crossfit activity?

Exactly, I think an activity with GPS engaged using Fit will drain the battery much more quickly. My experiences with SportGo have been poor. A lot of connections dropped, inability to read altitude and poor visibility of the numbers in the app in general. The battery usage was much more significant with SportyGo.

pilleus

@Brad_Olwin said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

experiences

+1

There is no tracking or training app out there with a battery usage as low as the Suunto wear app on the S7. No doubt that Suunto did an excellent job here.

Michał Muszyński

@Brad_Olwin I did the test
Google Fit - Cycling - Wahoo Tickr - watch disconnected from the phone to make sure that it does not use the phone’s GPS. - 30 min activity - 6%
Unfortunately, the GPS track cannot be seen in Googel Fit. And what I see is a simple line from point A to point B
I will do the test with connection to the phone,

pilleus

@Michał-Muszyński said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

Google Fit

Fit will be an option when it comes to a data sync with third party apps (QS, Strava). But at the moment the way to export data is way too complicated (export via Google takeout and import the tcx file manually to another app, missing data).

And using the GPS of the smartphone is no option for a watch with standalone GPS. This can also be done with a cheap fitness tracker or any other WearOS watch for 25% of the price of the S7.

I do not understand why I buy a watch with OHR, a very precise OHR, and afterwards I use an external heart rate belt!? The OHR of the S7 while walking and cycling is awesome and differs up to 2% to a Polar H10 at the end of a 2,5 hour walk or ride.

JorgeFD

@pilleus said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

I do not understand why I buy a watch with OHR, a very precise OHR, and afterwards I use an external heart rate belt!? The OHR of the S7 while walking and cycling is awesome and differs up to 2% to a Polar H10 at the end of a 2,5 hour walk or ride.

in winter is usual to put the watch over the jacket or if you put the watch in a bike mount

pilleus

@jorgefd78 said in When will Suunto 7 be out of BETA:

in winter is usual to put the watch over the jacket or if you put the watch in a bike mount

Okay. But Suunto is selling the S7 with the specs not to support external sensors with the Suunto wear app. Then it would be the wrong watch for me.

By the way, we have about 6 months of the year with cold weather conditions here too. I wear the S7 as always behind the wrist and between jacket and gloves. No problem.

And using the S7 with a bike mount is no option for me, because the OHR in the S7 wear app is going crazy. 100% of the heart rate all the time!?

JANTIKAINEN

@pilleus

I do not understand why I buy a watch with OHR, a very precise OHR, and afterwards I use an external heart rate belt!?

I love this watch and agree that the OHR is fantastic but still I wish I would be able to have an option to use an HR belt if needed.
Currently (ok not recently due to Corona) I have to use Polar Beat app + OH1 if I want to track anything when playing Basket Ball.
I’d say the same applies with lot of other team sports. I would like to be able to do this with S7 + Suunto Smart Sensor.

pilleus

@JANTIKAINEN I understand.

I bouhgt the S7 for hiking, walking, cycling, mountain biking and kayaking.

Hiking and walking are working without limitations. Following a route within the S7 wear app would be great, but is no problem with third party apps.

Cycling and mountain biking with limitations. The S7 is not optimal for mounting on the handle bar, because then the OHR is going crazy, always 100% and I have to press a button to see the screen or use the AOD. On the wrist it’s no problem and in this way I use the S7 for these two sports. A short turn of the wrist without taking the hand off the handle bar and it’s okay to read the data.

Kayaking is a no go. On the wrist GPS and OHR are quite bad and the time to have a look at the screen while paddling is under a second. No chance to read anything. The display is always on, because of the movement of the arm. It’s like turning the wrist all the time. The battery usage is about 30% in a hour! So the S7 is not usable for kayaking. The chance of the good old Spartan Ultra.

That is the situation for me. I love the S7, but I know, that one watch is not able to suit all of my needs.

Michał Muszyński

@pilleus The S7 is a great watch, but it has its drawbacks. Personally, I think they can be repaired by making software patches. Using several watches is not comfortable for me, besides Suunto does not integrate such a solution in its system. You cannot use two watches in one application. There are many situations where the OHR does not work, or the watch cannot be used on hands during sports activities. You agree with me that we all want Suunto watches to be better if not the best