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    • olymayO Offline
      olymay Gold Members
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      I haven’t noticed any issues with the altitude recorded by my Suunto 7.

      For example, today I did a run along a local canal and at a defined point I turned around and came bac along the exact same route.
      As expected a canal is pretty flat, and the watch recorded only 3m of altitude change (I ran 8.6km out and back with a total of 17.2km).
      The plot of altitude change is also symmetrical, as one would expect.

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      • EgikaE Offline
        Egika Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
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        @brad_olwin said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

        @luca-bellardo said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

        @egika In my opinion the S7 does not perform any altitude monitoring. I have tested with a third party altimeter, it updates very infrequently and sometimes it seems to me that it does not take the calibration that happens with Suunto rigs. Perfect altitude instead during the activities! (often compared with S9 cheater). Too bad, I too would like an altimeter management as it was for the Ambit series and as it is for S9 … In the end I have always considered Suunto first of all altimeters, to which they added the GPS starting from the series Ambit (which I’ve all had!)

        You are incorrect, the S7 uses FusedAlti. I have many examples of corrections and virtually all of my S7 altitude profiles match my S9 baro. I often wear both watches.

        Maybe misunderstanding:
        Luca states that during activity, altitude registration is Suunto state of the art.
        Just not when not recording.
        And that was my question: S9 has an automatic altitude measurement that I can have on the watch face and that follows weather changes and switches to altitude change when quickly moving uphill or downhill.
        How does S7 handle the altitude measurement when not recording an activity?

        Cheers!

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        • Andrea Antonio GuadalupiA Offline
          Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
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          I find this situation unacceptable, a product that costs almost 500 euros has all these problems …

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          • Andrea Antonio GuadalupiA Offline
            Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
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            i am very disappointed i bought suunto 7 i believe i will switch to garmin immediately!

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            • Jamie BGJ Offline
              Jamie BG Bronze Member @Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
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              @andrea-antonio-guadalupi if you are looking for a pure fitness watch you have made a wrong purchase choice. It’s a full smartwatch first, with good fitness tracking. Much better than anything on full smartwatch, but on low to mid tier on fitness watches, with easier to understand, more simplified metrics for the more complex fitness metrics. But does have some of the best offline maps, which I think confuses some buyers as they think it’s similar to fenix etc. It isn’t and that isn’t is market.

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              • Jamie BGJ Offline
                Jamie BG Bronze Member @Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
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                @andrea-antonio-guadalupi what problems? Most of us don’t have these issues. Not sure this isn’t an expectation issue.

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Egika
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                  @egika I had an altimeter app on the watch for a long time, it does a very good job of providing the altitude for where I live, that is about all I know. This was while not recording an activity.

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                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Andrea Antonio Guadalupi
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                    @andrea-antonio-guadalupi said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                    I find this situation unacceptable, a product that costs almost 500 euros has all these problems …

                    could you list all of the problems?

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                    • EgikaE Offline
                      Egika Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
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                      @brad_olwin said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                      @egika I had an altimeter app on the watch for a long time, it does a very good job of providing the altitude for where I live, that is about all I know. This was while not recording an activity.

                      Yeah, so probably the whole altitude and baro handling is done by WearOS and 3rd party apps. So probably no intelligent filtering and automatic changeover from baro to alti… 😔

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                      • pilleusP Offline
                        pilleus @Egika
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                        @egika said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                        the whole altitude and baro handling is done by WearOS and 3rd party apps

                        I think so. Since I installed Alti-Barometer app with automatic altitude calibration the altitude reading and ascent are great. Start and end altitude are correct and ascent and descent too. 👍

                        But in Ghostracer I must calibrate the barometer even if the Alti-Barometer app does it before.

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                        • Andrea Antonio GuadalupiA Offline
                          Andrea Antonio Guadalupi @pilleus
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                          @pilleus alti-barometer app???

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                          • pilleusP Offline
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                            @andrea-antonio-guadalupi

                            https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-alti-barometer-app-w-tile-auto-calibration-notifications-and-more.4136449/

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                            • Andrea Antonio GuadalupiA Offline
                              Andrea Antonio Guadalupi @pilleus
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                              @pilleus I tried the application, but the altitude is completely wrong sometimes …

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                              • Kurt68K Offline
                                Kurt68
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                                I cannot solve the problem. With a run of 400m ascent, the S7 shows between 100m and 200m more ascent compared to an Ambit3 and an S9. There are always short spikes down and up that are wrong. I had the watch at service and was told that the sensor was not faulty.
                                The S7 is dark green

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                                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Kurt68
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                                  @kurt68 It appears that something is temporarily blocking the sensor holes, either you skin or fabric.

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                                  • Kurt68K Offline
                                    Kurt68 @Brad_Olwin
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                                    @brad_olwinI can exclude clothes I paid special attention to that. If it’s the skin that’s a problem, I can’t change anything? It can’t be dirt. The watch was just at the service.

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                                    • freeheelerF Offline
                                      freeheeler @Kurt68
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                                      @kurt68
                                      Suunto Core, Suunto 9 and Suunto 7 obviously have this issue.
                                      With S9 and Core it does not matter so much as you have either no HR at all or you can but on the chest belt. With S7 I consider this as an issue, since OHR requires a proper fit on the wrist.
                                      IMHO it is a design flaw that can happen to all designers. Let’s hope Suunto improves that for their upcoming baro watches. I would have ideas… but @cosmecosta and I are still fighting who’ll get the job 😉

                                      living sideways

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                                      • cosme.costaC Offline
                                        cosme.costa @freeheeler
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                                        @freeheeler I thought that we agreed to be collaborative 😜😜.

                                        Now seriously, I see the issue but I also see advantages to the actual design. This design is also used in some Spartans without many complains (the Ultra has different case but same position for the holes and Spartan Sport with baro has the same case). I also remember @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos commenting that A3 peak had also some downsizes regarding the baro design, but he didn’t commented which ones.

                                        @Kurt68 have you tried to use the watch in the other arm?

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                                        • Kurt68K Offline
                                          Kurt68 @cosme.costa
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                                          @cosmecosta with the S9 I didn’t have the problem. The idea of ​​wearing the watch on the other arm also occurred to me today. I’ll try tomorrow. 😜👍

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                                          • freeheelerF Offline
                                            freeheeler @cosme.costa
                                            last edited by freeheeler

                                            @cosmecosta
                                            I assume he meant that the same location in S9 as in A3P was not possible because of internal electronics etc.

                                            living sideways

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