Suunto 7: Missed things

JorgeFD

@jorgefd78 said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

· Remaining battery time like S9 with the current configuration

I have the feeling that this number would be less stable than in the S9, due to the nature of apps running on the watch, and may move quite a bit.

agree with you. Maybe an “ultra” mode for the watch to optimize the battery, where background apps, bt connection to smartphone, etc… are not allowed to run, and only suuntoapp would be great

freeheeler

@jorgefd78
you mean because S7 has more mAh than S9 and should be able to get better batterylife depending on the functions you disable?

pilleus

Loading a gpx file instead of or as overlay on the heatmap

Would be enough to follow a created route or track in the running Suunto App without starting a third party app.

JorgeFD

@TELE-HO said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

@jorgefd78
you mean because S7 has more mAh than S9 and should be able to get better batterylife depending on the functions you disable?

S7 has a lot of possible configurations:screen on/off, gesture, tones, vibrate, music on/off, connection to phone or not, screen bright, etc… garmin implemented something similar in the newest fenix. Depending on your configuration you can see while using the watch the remaining time of battery with the actual configuration

Brad_Olwin

@jorgefd78 said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

@isazi said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

@jorgefd78 said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

· Remaining battery time like S9 with the current configuration

I have the feeling that this number would be less stable than in the S9, due to the nature of apps running on the watch, and may move quite a bit.

agree with you. Maybe an “ultra” mode for the watch to optimize the battery, where background apps, bt connection to smartphone, etc… are not allowed to run, and only suuntoapp would be great

You can configure this by putting the watch into airplane mode. I am not sure that you can get much more battery life without reducing something else. I believe airplane mode will get you a bit more battery.

zvonejan

@jorgefd78 said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

Hi

I’m thinking about a list of specs that the S7 must have but doesn’t have at the moment. Just as a recap:

· Intervals like S9
· Remaining battery time like S9 with the current configuration
· Sync and follow tracks from SuuntoApp
· Search and follow tracks using heatmaps in watch
· Mark waypoints
· Edit screens
· BT sensors support
· Edit HR zones
· Push cardio/sleep/calories data from the watch to SuuntoApp - @Bulkan

it would be great if someone in suunto could tell us an expected date of implementation (if it’s going to be implemented)

Feel free to add your wishes and I will edit the post.

Suunto says SPORTS AND LIFE, COMBINED. As i can see, 50% sport, 50 % life (android wear). This si suunto 7. But you gays want 100% sport like suunto 9 and another 50 % life. 150% watch :). Suunto 9 is 90 % sport and 10 % life for me. Programming new things for s7 is not so easy because google stands behind that ( external sensors ar not on their list). Two years is almost around and in summer we can expect suunto 10. And yes, 90 % sport and 10 % life (I guess)

@zvonejan I don’t think Google has anything to do with decisions Suunto takes, BT sensors including. Polar M600, based on much older Android Wear back in 2016, had no trouble supporting external HR sensors. Not to mention Polar’s own workout calendar, structured workouts, sleep analysis…

So, it is logical when people see a very capable and in some respect better hardware than S9 (slimmer, lighter, much better screen, order of magnitude better OHR sensor and algos) they want more sports features. Yes, some of the S9 stuff like incredible battery life, or configurable power modes will never make it to S7 due to hardware and low level operating system differences. It’s also possible that low power core used by Suunto app precludes use of external sensors.

But other things like configurable heart rate, sports mode customization, intervals, intensity targets, full Google Fit integration for workouts import, native activity tracking pushed to Suunto’s own app, or even route guidance are perfectly possible. Whether Suunto chooses to implement them is another question. Time will tell I suppose. Depends to a large degree what segment of the market drives S7 adoption…

@jorgefd78 It would actually be cool if Suunto started a developer program that targets Suunto 7 (here’s an idea @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos!).

To make people aware of any customization they made around Wear OS setup, any gotchas for working with Suunto’s chosen sensors, or best practices if one wants to execute workloads on 3100 low power core like a native Suunto app does. Hell, if I want to capture a workout and send it to Suunto cloud, does Suunto provide libraries I can use on the watch? Wouldn’t it make sense to rely on the same bits Suunto’s own app using?

Just do the same thing Garmin did with Connect IQ, but make Wear OS on Suunto 7 your platform. Your Connect IQ. I feel community can contribute quite a lot and close quite a few holes we currently have. @pilleus has made a ton of great app suggestions already for things like interval timers. But what if I want some customization around interval screens? And those pesky external sensors? And things automatically syncing to Suunto cloud?

pilleus

I think the S7 can do a lot of things out of the box, because it is WearOS running on the watch.

I used Android wear years ago with the Sony Smartwatch 3 and poor battery life.

S7 is a new level and it is a high level looking at the S7 Suunto app.

With the old Sony I traveled by bike 2000 km through Germany, Australia, Switzerland and Italy and used only a calculated track, as gpx file on the smartphone. Locus running as service on the phone and the track with colored maps and correct oriented in driving direction, that was all and enough. The battery of the Sony was powered by a power bank.

Here a screenshot of the Locus companion app on the watch (I tested it on the S7 today):

Now the S7 could do this without connected smartphone! Offline maps, gps, great battery life are given and the S7 Suunto App is able to display a red tracback line on the offline map. Looks like the Locus solution, but will save battery life in a great way. Look at the screenshot of the running cycling activity:

And finally it would be easy to use a simple gpx file, stored in the watch (there is a lot of free space for music and in the file structure of the intern storage there could be created a directory gpx_files in which the user could store routes and tracks) and displayed on the screen in another color as the red tracback line.

No smartphone needed, no Suunto app on the smartphone needed, just an option in the pull-up menu of the activity to pick up the gpx file and display it on the offline map.

Please Suunto, think about it. And please @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos read it and transfer it to the developers of Suunto.

Thanks for reading!

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@pilleus Roger

pilleus

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

@pilleus Roger

Thanks a lot!

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@pilleus see also my tag of you on Nick’s post.

zvonejan

Now the S7 could do this without connected smartphone!

Are you sure? Try that without phone or turned phone off. Locus map uses gps from phone on my expiriences (Ticwatch, Casio f21). Other story is Viewranger on casio wear watches. They have partnership with viewranger and it can be used vith watch only

pilleus

@zvonejan said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

Are you sure?

I was not clear enough, sorry.

S7 can do native the same without smartphone as Locus with companion app and smartphone. It does the same already in the map screen of the running activity. Showing a line/track on the offline map.

No need for Locus on the S7. If there would be the choice to use a gpx file in the S7 Suunto App.

This is what I wanted to say.