Suunto 7

[Saketo Nemo]

My first impression

some healty problems prevented me from testing it better but for now:

• 2 times in the pool, whr surprisingly precise. I do not have a comparison with the hr band, but the cardiac progress has followed my exercises. with s9, in the same conditions, i had very bad results.
• 1 bike ride: slow, very slow, post blood donation. Excellent tracking (ok, cycling is easy) and here too, whr absolutely plausible despite several stretches on the bumpy.

Autonomy
Settings:

• animations passed from 0.5x to 0

• automatic brightness removed and set to 2

• no wake up with wrist rotation.

• By bike: 10% per hour, playing occasionally with maps and occasionally checking beats and rhythm

• swimming: 3% per hour.

• airplane mode: 1.5% per hour

Nice to have: shutdown by covering the screen with the palm of your hand
Maybe on Saturday I will try it for a trail with a lot of difference in height, together with my S9. Let’s see how the barometer and tracking will behave during the run.

[Lozen]

@Saketo-Nemo just a stupid question for which reason the WHR is so incredible better than S9? Valencell installed the same equipment or not?

[sartoric]

@Lozen
It seems different, just looking at it. Maybe is a sort of v2 … but I’m not even sure is still Valencell. I’ve never check

[Lozen]

@sartoric in the net the sensor is the same, at least this what is declared so I don’t know where this substantial improvement is coming from. Surely WearOS should not have impact on this incredible improvement

[sartoric]

@Lozen
For sure the weight helps, maybe the shape of the base …

[A Former User]

@Lozen said in Suunto 7:

@Saketo-Nemo Valencell installed the same equipment or not?

It’s not Valencell anymore. Different sensor package, different algos backing it up.

[The_77]

@Lozen I remember Ray said that they ditched Valencell for this one in his hands on?

So about that heart rate sensor – that’s a big shift. The company has ditched Valencell’s package and gone with a combo-dish from LifeQ’s algorithms and a sensor from PixArt. LifeQ may actually ring a bell – as back about five years ago we saw TomTom employ them for their optical HR sensors in some of their wearables. It wasn’t all bad at the time, but LifeQ doesn’t list many partners since then on their site (nor much recent info at all on their site) as to other examples of who might be using more recent sensor packages.

[Lozen]

@The_77 oh, you are right, thanks I didn’t read it but in any case he didn’t mention anything about the substantial improvement regarding with the OHR (on top he has some nice words for the current company producing the sensor, don’t know why ). I am so curious because in the forum there were a lot of people mentioning the bad opinion of WHR (generally speaking) and now they have completely changed the opinion and it seems ok for almost all the Sports. So it means that the improvement is really huge

[The_77]

@Lozen I think he had it for one day in Vegas before giving it back and I saw the other day on twitter he doesn’t have one for test purposes yet, hence no oHR commentary?

[pilleus]

[A Former User]

@Lozen said in Suunto 7:

in the forum there were a lot of people mentioning the bad opinion of WHR (generally speaking) and now they have completely changed the opinion and it seems ok for almost all the Sports.

Who are those reformed people?

Walking/running was a foregone conclusion as this is one nut that’s been cracked thoroughly by everyone in the industry.

I did some testing of H10 paired to S9 vs S7 for gym workouts linked up the thread. Things like stationary bike looked real good, as did indoor rowing, though rowing had been fine even for Fitbit as of few years back. Bodyweight exercises were hit and miss. Stretching was hit and miss, though on a closer look at the data, mostly miss. Strength and plyometric exercises are total no go.

@Saketo-Nemo reported good performance in the pool. @pilleus reported good bike performance outdoors.

So, in general we’ve got a solid OHR sensor for common, most popular sports. Sadly this is no solution for strength/weights, nor situations where you can’t wear your watch (team or impact sports).

Needless to say, at least part of the improvement is due to Suunto 7 being slimmer and having a flatter profile on your wrist. Also, can’t say for anyone, but OHR generally works well for me.

[Lozen]

@NickK thank you for your feedback, I already read the comment fo the people in the forum. The bad opinion was related with the WHR performance in S9, in the forum there are a lot of such kind of feedback. Good that for walking/running/swimming/internal rowing, outdoor bike it is performing well (of course based on the feedback received). As I mentioned before, it was a surpise for me but happy that now there is a reference for WHR and Suunto could apply the same approach (e.g. Technology & shape) to the future watches

[Agustin Gonzalez Perez Corral]

Hello Suunto bunch. Sorry to ask this, in case it’s been already said: but is it possible to upload gpx routes created on the suunto app or anywhere else, to the new Suunto 7?

[pilleus]

@Agustin-Gonzalez-Perez-Corral not with the Suunto App. I hope for an update.

[Agustin Gonzalez Perez Corral]

@pilleus Thank you, man. Only reason that is stopping me from taking the plunge.

[Fenr1r]

@pilleus In the meantime you could try this. It’s massively redundant to Suunto’s own features and it’s probably a battery vampire but I’m vaguely curious to know if it would even work. Feel like experimenting? Try out a gpx or two?

[Brad_Olwin]

@Fenr1r I have tested ViewRanger and it works well.

[pilleus]

@Fenr1r said in Suunto 7:

Try out

Thanks, but I stay with Locus, because my smartphone is available on tour.

[Fenr1r]

@Brad_Olwin Well done. GPX import and all? Did you try for the full loop: route from Suunto app -> ViewRanger app on S7? Just for shiggles?

[Saketo Nemo]

finally I managed to make a small run with S7 and S9.

It was a few days that I did not use and synchronize the S9, this certainly affected the altitude (not corrected subsequently by high fused), I dare say accurate to the meter on suunto 7.

Well cadence and step. Suunto 9 is better here. I made a series of small repetitions of 2 minutes, recovering 1 minute walking, then pace 10’/km. S7 read me more slowly.

The WHR is excellent. S9 was connected with the band and today unfortunately showed some peaks, but recovered after first 10 minutes. The readings during the repetitions are comparable.

I envy those who performed well with S9, I’ve never had them, so I’m very happy with S7. I continue to prefer the band, but I know that if I forget it at home in the future, if it can ever be used during training on s7 tomorrow, I can still trust my HR data. And that’s a big PLUS for me