When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?

Fenr1r

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Caveat emptor is wise advice but the lack of disclosure on that web page is … iffy. Hence my genuine doubt rather than strident accusation. I can hear a lawyer in one ear and pissed-off punters in the other. Like you, I can’t see a judge* caring much about what the service is called, so long as the gizmo works as advertised at time of sale. I can see one looking harshly at an easily-demonstrated, planned-but-not-mentioned-at-purchase early withdrawal of selling-point capablity:

“Your honor [or whatever], it’s like I specifically bought a convertible and they disabled the sunroof after a few weeks, according to a plan they had but didn’t mention when I bought it. Sure, the engine’s excellent, the tyres have cool rims and the blu-ray player is multi-region. But I chose this one for the ragtop. OK, so it’s stuck closed and still keeps the rain off. But still …”

But hey, perhaps all those listed features will remain for the A3P purchaser and Suunto are simply being coy about the exact labelling and mechanics of the new provision. For those of us outside the decision-making and implementation process it’s, well, moot.

No idea if this stuff reaches actual judges anywhere.

jsuarez

Yes, that is plain wrong. They are really looking for a lawsuit with this one.

freeheeler

@jsuarez
Suunto has to deal with the fact that ambit family is rather old but A3 has BT and they support BT watches in SA but A3 is still not a Spartan or S-line and hence has a different setup and still belongs to the ambit family and MC…
it’s tricky!

jsuarez

@TELE-HO That’s clear, but I am not referring to that. I am referring to those poor customers, specially the non-tech-savy, who are buying these watches just to discover the complete nightmare of platforms and digital transition…

Take a look below (taken, right now, from https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Products/sports-watches/Suunto-Ambit3-Vertical/suunto-ambit3-vertical-black-le/)

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And they still advertise the possibility to use Apps (http://www.movescount.com/apps?_ga=2.237836864.1934228121.1576067761-421964838.1576067761 , reditected from the "Suunto Movescount App link within the “Advance Training and Recovery Functions”).

^^ That is what is plain wrong.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@jsuarez Those will be removed I suppose and since MC is not going anywhere I suppose, some still apply like create a route etc.

Fenr1r

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Comms language again. The digital transition notice promises that the neo-MC will “be a similar web-based tool to manage important settings and functionality (including routes …” “Manage” is not necessarily the same as your “create” or MC’s “plan”. The latter two require a map interface; the first can be ~legally “similar” to MC by its ability to shunt a gpx route (created elsewhere) onto the watch - and only that (route “management”-wise).

Maybe mapping will be involved but that very late removal undermines the trust Suunto would want for punters’ interpretation of the extremely loose term “management”.

Similar issues may apply with the wording on apps, etc.

dkoor

I just got my Ambit 3 Peak and just wanted to say that after I connected my watch to Suunto android mobile app, which was really intuitive and fast, my workouts appear automatically on Suunto app in a few seconds. Really happy with that. Also battery seems to be really good too, at least from what I could tell in my initial impressions.
Now, since I haven’t been a Suunto user before, and I have regularly shared my workouts with Sports Tracker, my old workouts are on Suunto automatically.

They, however are not shared with Movescount. That may present some kind of obstacle with you guys that were old Movescount users, but I doubt there will be any major issues with it since Suunto obviously automatically migrates accounts from MC to Suunto/SportsTracker.

So far, I’ve been satsified and even pleasantly surprised with Suunto, hope they keep up the good work.

Mff73

@dkoor said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

I just got my Ambit 3 Peak and just wanted to say that after I connected my watch to Suunto android mobile app, which was really intuitive and fast, my workouts appear automatically on Suunto app in a few seconds. Really happy with that. Also battery seems to be really good too, at least from what I could tell in my initial impressions.
Now, since I haven’t been a Suunto user before, and I have regularly shared my workouts with Sports Tracker, my old workouts are on Suunto automatically.

They, however are not shared with Movescount. That may present some kind of obstacle with you guys that were old Movescount users, but I doubt there will be any major issues with it since Suunto obviously automatically migrates accounts from MC to Suunto/SportsTracker.

So far, I’ve been satsified and even pleasantly surprised with Suunto, hope they keep up the good work.

And what about your new workouts, synced with SuuntoApp, if you look at them in Sporttracker site ?

dkoor

Yeah, forgot to mention, if you are Android user and want for some reason to migrate your workouts from one to another place then Syncmy Tracks app is one of the solutions for you.

It works well with many, many platforms including SuuntoMovesCount, Garmin, Adidas, SportsTracker etc. etc.

Check it out guys and gals you wont regret it.

Hope I don’t break any rules by mentioning that certain app, I’m in no way affiliated with that app (other than being a happy customer).

dkoor

@Mff73 said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

And what about your new workouts, synced with SuuntoApp, if you look at them in Sporttracker site ?

Yep! They are apparently automatically included on SportsTracker app too. I just checked few seconds ago.

freeheeler

@dkoor
don’t look at the ascent values…

Mff73

@TELE-HO said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

@dkoor
don’t look at the ascent values…

too quick answer for me

freeheeler

@Mff73
sorry… should have waited a bit… spoileralarm!

dkoor

@TELE-HO Hmmm you mean that not all workout features are shared?
Haven’t got opportunity to test it all just yet…

freeheeler

@dkoor
yes, you can also say “not all”… to me it appears as only few are synced or displayed

Mff73

@TELE-HO and @dkoor
i think there is strange things here
Normally, all moves in SA, must be in Sporttracker, if not, it is a bug for sure.

What is not good, and the meaning of my too short remark, it is that sporttracker, for now, doesn’t show any ascent/descent for workouts from SA. @dkoor , it is something you will miss in this transition currently.

dkoor

@TELE-HO Thanks for the headsup! Will ofc chek it out all as the time passes and I make more activities.
I understand that there may be issues, and since I’ve been long time user of many similar pages, I’m kinda used to it… And always managed to solve such problems, if it doesn’t work like it is supposed to I look at 3rd party or even manual edit until things improve.

dkoor

@Mff73 said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

@TELE-HO and @dkoor
i think there is strange things here
Normally, all moves in SA, must be in Sporttracker, if not, it is a bug for sure.

What is not good, and the meaning of my too short remark, it is that sporttracker, for now, doesn’t show any ascent/descent for workouts from SA. @dkoor , it is something you will miss in this transition currently.

Thanks mate, I got what you meant to say. I just hope it wont make much of an obstacle to people until it gets fixed.

freeheeler

@dkoor
I don’t want to be mean, but ST would require tonns of fixes as I see it until it becomes useful.
As it has nothing to do officially with SA, I would rather have it separated on the public side (accesswise etc).

dkoor

Yeah, I get what you are saying even if I don’t know about the details yet.

I wrote quite a long post about your observations and figured that many of my writings are assumptions, and I deleted it all. Gotta wait and thoroughly try the stuff out, then I’ll see.
Apart from my past experiences with many other platforms I couldn’t really further add something useful to the discussion.