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    • suzzloS Offline
      suzzlo Moderator @washa
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      @washa Hi, we have a section with 3rd party tools

      https://forum.suunto.com/topic/520/additional-external-tools?page=1

      Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
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        nseslija Bronze Member
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        I don’t understand posts like this… This is only a GPS watch… not your partner for life…
        My Ambit 2 still works and I can sync with MC… Also my S9B is working just fine… SA can be better,… like everything else in this world, nothing is perfect… I am using Runalyze if I won’t to see something more…but I rarely do… I do sport for health and fun, not for living…

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          fejker Gold Members @nseslija
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          @nseslija for some of us, investing 500-700 € into a wearable is quite a lot of money. It’s not like you can invest that much money every year or even every other year into “only a GPS watch”. And besides, some people (me including) like to have continuity and like having all these sport activities unified on one platform.
          I can very much understand the frustration.

          SHUT UP LEGS!
          -Jens Voigt

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            freeheeler @fejker
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            @fejker
            good point… one of my relatives left for garmin, too… she did not care much about her data being still in movescount, she starts with a new sheet of paper in garmin connect, which I could not really understand why…
            some people are more keen on data, some are not.
            I changed to suunto because of the brilliant MC data. Now I have to get myself used to something else…
            humans are pretty good in adapting but the solution that we should adapt to is expected to be something better, easier to read, easier to handle and streamlined in the meaning of “everything out of one hand”.
            To me it makes the impression as if everyone is trying to find his/hers own solution with 3rd parties… which will work for sure. But that is against all the other trends where you get complete service offered e.g. from google with maps, calendar etc and everything is connected and you don’t have to worry about anything.

            So on one hand, I can do sports without a watch at all. On the other hand, I decided to do sports with a watch for some reason and I would like to make reasonable use of the data I’m producing with it 🙂

            living sideways

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              nseslija Bronze Member @fejker
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              @fejker You are right, for most of us it is a lot of money, but there are so many GPS watches that are under 500 € , Suunto 5 is great watch, now under 300 € … but we all want top of the line 😊
              Although, when you decide to spend so much money, you probably do some research, I did…
              I knew that MC is going away, that S line is not Ambit, that there is only Bluetooth connection, etc…
              I also knew that I wouldn’t need features that I wouldn’t use, like music, payments… marketing stuff…
              Now after one year of using S9B I am certain that I made a good decision, and even if I made a mistake with a bad purchase I just can’t be frustrated because of that… I bought the watch, but I am not its slave…
              My all activities are on several platforms… MC, SA, Runalyze, Strava… I think that this can’t be such a big deal to achieve nowadays…

              Ambit 2S
              Ambit 3 Peak
              Suunto 9 baro
              Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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              • fejkerF Offline
                fejker Gold Members @nseslija
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                @nseslija I am talking about bugs, not new features. I have had my SSU since August 2016 and hardware and feature wise I don’t need an upgrade, I just want it to function correctly and not wait a year or more for old and new bugs to get fixed. And why I bought the Spartan … because it was the only logical upgrade from an Ambit1 at that time and it looks like I would be more screwed today if I had picked up an Ambit3. I just can’t do without a barometer and battery life that is less than 15h, that is all.
                And of course the transition from MC to SA could have been handled very differently by Suunto, but that has been discussed in multiple threads multiple times and I won’t go into that.
                Do you see what I am getting at? Spending 700 € on a sport watch at launch I expect it to be supported with software updates at least 4 years. MC/SA issues left aside.

                SHUT UP LEGS!
                -Jens Voigt

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                  Fenr1r @fejker
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                  @fejker Are we naive to expect those 4 years (or more)? Should we rather gauge our expectations of product development support to the warranty period for our seller’s jurisdiction? For a web-integrated product environment the bug fixes come in until the device matches the product advertising and the web element remains until [warranty period] from the last unit sold?

                  Not the happiest of situations when the hardware still works well (albeit nowhere near optimally utilised for our particular wishes) but are we being unreasonable?

                  [On the other hand. I had a tent from an American company which cost about as much as an A3P. Its seams started to delaminate when it was around ten years old, eight years outside its warranty. I asked them what I could do to re-waterproof it. They offered to send me a new one if I paid postage.]

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                    nseslija Bronze Member @fejker
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                    @fejker Spartan doesn’t have SW support any more…? It had 3 firmware updates this year… and I really don’t think that Suunto keep bugs in their SW deliberately… do you?
                    BTW, I am on your side, but I think that people generally have big demands and expectation.

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                    Ambit 3 Peak
                    Suunto 9 baro
                    Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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                      azeanic
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                      When I first came to trail running, I was on the Ambit 3 / Movescount system and 4 of my buddies were using the Ambit 3 as well. Now, most of them are already deciding to switch to Coros as it’s price point and feature set (along with a push from the local distributor) is making a strong case. I meanwhile on the other hand, is still using the Suunto 9. Most of them have had some issues trying the App and aren’t too convinced with the feature set of the 9, which is a bit of a shame.

                      While I’m probably less dependant on the features for my use case, I think if it’s not on par with what the market is asking, then It’s probably not going to gain new customers, or in this case, lose existing customers. I do hope Suunto gets more developers on board to move the development of the app quicker and get newer products which are on par feature-wise with its competitors. I still think Suunto still makes the best hardware among the lot.

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                        Dave80
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                        I often read people leave Suunto for Garmin, but Garmin (or any brand for that matter) isn’t flawless either. The Fenix5 Plus for example often has horrible GPS, especially in open water and it’s about 100 / 200 bucks more than the Suunto 9.

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                          auxina @Dave80
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                          @Dave80 said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

                          I often read people leave Suunto for Garmin, but Garmin (or any brand for that matter) isn’t flawless either. The Fenix5 Plus for example often has horrible GPS, especially in open water and it’s about 100 / 200 bucks more than the Suunto 9.

                          The price is similar.
                          https://www.trekkinn.com/montana/garmin-fenix-5-plus/136874896/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=7173609&country=es&gclid=CjwKCAiA3OzvBRBXEiwALNKDPyzHQoDIn6WQi0fj-4BUnsKHmtRB372NadmxDbtdS2_SVsudGp26hxoCL3wQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

                          https://www.trekkinn.com/montana/suunto-9-baro/136835067/p

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                            freeheeler @auxina
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                            @auxina
                            it’s only about the question if you prefer US or EU companies… 😉
                            …and if you can live without web interface!

                            living sideways

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                              auxina @freeheeler
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                              @TELE-HO

                              True.
                              I want to clarify it because sometimes it compares with the S9 version not baro.
                              I would like to have a web interface. I currently use Runalyze, QS and Final Surge, but I would prefer Suunto to have one.

                              Ah, Europe, always Europe! ☺

                              S9B Titanium Iron Man
                              2.26.8

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                                freeheeler @auxina
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                                @auxina
                                I really also would like to see SW (Suunto Web)… QS is pretty nice to survive in case SW will never come.

                                …telemark bindings are better from the US I think 😉 …the Norwegians are the patent holders but the US design is better… off topic off, again

                                living sideways

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                                  Dave80 @auxina
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                                  @auxina

                                  I see I compared the Suunto 9 without the barometer with the 5/5s/5plus and that de 5 series has a barometer. However the regular S9 is € 280 here, while the 5plus is almost twice as mutch. Apples and oranges I know. I just compared the G5 and the S9 (and went for the S9 last week). I didn’t notice the barometer difference since I don’t attach any value to it. My bad.

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                                    Mi_chael Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                    last edited by Mi_chael

                                    @TELE-HO said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

                                    @auxina
                                    it’s only about the question if you prefer US or EU companies… 😉
                                    …and if you can live without web interface!

                                    And Structured Intervals also…
                                    😋

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                                    • Václav KrálV Offline
                                      Václav Král
                                      last edited by Václav Král

                                      Hehe, I have few friends with Garmin and they use probably 10% features of their watches (activity measuring, time, notifications from mobile). I have S9 and I’m probably using 80 - 90% features of my S9. 😄
                                      So, this is very strange ratio price / power 😄

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                                        Mi_chael Bronze Member
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                                        For me, My S9 is a great piece of HW but

                                        I miss him waypoints/POI. I know it’s on the way…

                                        and more adjustable intervals. The actual intervals timer is good with its screens but a little more configured will be great.

                                        😁

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                                          fejker Gold Members @Václav Král
                                          last edited by

                                          @Václav-Král said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

                                          Hehe, I have few friends with Garmin and they use probably 10% features of their watches (activity measuring, time, notifications from mobile). I have S9 and I’m probably using 80 - 90% features of my S9. 😄
                                          So, this is very strange ratio price / power 😄

                                          So you are using 80-90% of the features on the S9 … activity measuring, time, notifications from mobile. 😂 😅

                                          SHUT UP LEGS!
                                          -Jens Voigt

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                                            auxina @Dave80
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                                            @Dave80 said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

                                            5plus es casi el doble de mordisco. Manzanas y naranjas, lo sé. Acabo de comparar el G5 y el S

                                            Good buy.
                                            Enjoy!

                                            S9B Titanium Iron Man
                                            2.26.8

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