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Gerald has a very nice review up. Too bad, the S3F can use a footpod but will not display power. It can however, track GPS using the phone app. While not for us, this may indeed turn out to be a good seller for Suunto. Gerald Review S3F
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Oh, very interesting!
That’s also means some “final” version of the SuuntoApp might’ve around the corner?
A few minutes ago the email came with a preorder link and some nice pics of the new watch!
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@brad_olwin thanks for mentioning the review as I was looking for one in case already written by someone but with no success.
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I have more info and will have to ask Gerald about this. The specs for the watch say it will deliver Power with the Stryd sensor. This disagrees with Gerald’s review and we will have to ask him about that. One troubling note…there is NO integration with Movescount. IMHO this means MC is going away and all of our data will be ported to the current app. I would find this very troubling and concerning as the app does not support large screens (iPad) and there is no web interface for the app. Sure wish we knew what Suunto’s plans are and had a roadmap. It would change the importance of features if I knew MC was going away eventually. However, if this means MC will be tailored to more serious athletes that would be great and I would even be willing to pay a subscription if it could replace Training Peaks. It would be simpler to have everything in one place. Oh well…I guess we will just have to fumble around in the dark as we have been doing for the last 6 months or so…
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@brad_olwin said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:
I have more info and will have to ask Gerald about this. The specs for the watch say it will deliver Power with the Stryd sensor. This disagrees with Gerald’s review and we will have to ask him about that. One troubling note…there is NO integration with Movescount. IMHO this means MC is going away and all of our data will be ported to the current app. I would find this very troubling and concerning as the app does not support large screens (iPad) and there is no web interface for the app. Sure wish we knew what Suunto’s plans are and had a roadmap. It would change the importance of features if I knew MC was going away eventually. However, if this means MC will be tailored to more serious athletes that would be great and I would even be willing to pay a subscription if it could replace Training Peaks. It would be simpler to have everything in one place. Oh well…I guess we will just have to fumble around in the dark as we have been doing for the last 6 months or so…
Lets take this from start.
I think Gerrald hit a bug or did not test it ok. I know there was a bug for the intensity target when the Stryd is paired as a pod and not as power meter (as a pod also gets power).
Ill come back to this with details.Regarding the MC let me shed some insight on this.
The MC integration with the Suunto app will come having MC as a dependency. That means that from the Suunto app you will connect to MC and not the way around.
This indicates that MC to Suunto app is a service and a relaltion similar to Strava with the Suunto app. Suunto app will not replace MC any time soon. And if that would have been the case you would already know. You don’t flip a switch in 6 months on a product.That said, the reasons that S3F will not ever connect to MC is because the features are not compatible. S3F has data, screens, coaching etc that do not fit either in the MC web or apps.
Most important reason is that in combination with the target market, the S3F needs to be app standalone for now, no need for old MC apps (that support tons of devices eg even diving) and has to have a modern cleaner interface. For your knowledge the suunto app works differently with the S3F etc due to extra features like fitness level, coaching and connected GPS.
Does this make it clearer a bit?
FYI the target market and people in this forum do not use a pc. (click the link to see the debate)
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@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Thanks man, I already told you I was an old guy, I am really a dinosaur. I use my mac (I don’t own a pc either:) every day most of the day for work so… I am used to using either the Mac or the iPhone. I do like moving most functions to the phone and glad to hear that the app will work as a service to MC. Still, I find it rather amazing that the S3F is not compatible with MC.
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Reading Gerald’s review, and looking at some of the screens, gives me a lot of hope for a future firmware update for our Spartans, even if it’s just little things. It looks like a lovely little device for the right market segment.
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@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Thanks for clarifying some things up!
That info with Suunto App have a quite similar connection as Strava is really useful/important to me, seems like I am not the target market because I still use a computer. Not a PC, only Mac here, but having all those connection is really good to know.
That really makes sense with the S3F and only app usage. Really looking forward to the next firmware release, the launch of the new watch and the start of the Suunto App!
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@brad_olwin But at 25th April Suunto app will be official launched just for SF3, without support for Ambit and Spartan? I did not understand.
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@luís-pinto for now maybe only s3f, but to invest such effort to develop app only for s3f wouldnt be reasonable, so I think all watches are going to be supported sooner or later.
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@luís-pinto said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:
@brad_olwin But at 25th April Suunto app will be official launched just for SF3, without support for Ambit and Spartan? I did not understand.
Yes let me make this crystal clear.
We have an issue with the suunto app at this moment.
As you all understand it’s far from ready for the Spartans but it’s almost ready for the s3f and should be.
However the app needs to hit the stores for the s3f users on release.
We thought about not allowing app store (and playstore) users that install the app not to be able to pair their Spartans. But that is not the best decision. So it’s not the way.
So:
The app will hit the store at the s3f release. Users with Spartans will be promoted and know that if they pair their Spartan the functionality for the Spartans will not be ok and they will be also testsing a beta feature of the app. So Spartan sync with the app from the stores will be a beta feature.
At the same time , we will continue with here and the beta releases until we get this right. And believe me from what I have seen it’s going to be awesome in some months.
All your requests , chats , fears, bugs, issues and thoughts are taken 100% into consideration. We are cooking this experience for you. The people in this forum. You are driving the requests and helping this. Suunto is so happy about this beta, and it’s putting all the effort now on this. S3f is released, 2 more weeks for the s3f app fixes and then boom. Suunto is full on us and the Spartans. Android will get a speed up as well.
I hope this helps and good morning my friends. I love to see you here. All of you. Grumpy or not. You all have added and add continuously great value !!! Keep it up.
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If you want to help to speed up android app development here is opportunity for you:
http://www.suunto.com/en-GB/About-Suunto/Company-info/Careers/android-lead-developer---mobile-team/
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You know what, that is totally fine with me. I still can use my Spartan with SuuntoLink to Movescount, and if the new app keeps on working like right not in Beta stage, well, I can live with that. We have this opportunity here to test and help create an app we want. And for me that is truly a great experience.
Some might not think so, but for me and my usage of the app, I can live to wait a little more. Keep up the good work, and hopefully good spirits as well with all bugs and issues and impatient users!
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@dimitrios-kanellopoulos thanks for clarification. It’s very good that someone can speak and tell us about our doubts.
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@luís-pinto said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:
@dimitrios-kanellopoulos thanks for clarification. It’s very good that someone can speak and tell us about our doubts.
Don’t forget I am also a consumer. I also have my fears and more over yours as well. Some nights I get nightmares no joke. I can rest assure you there is not 1% of resources not working for the Spartans and the app. All the company focus is and was on this.
Things are getting better , and I hope you will see it with the coming Spartan updates. Perhpas something I can share more with you, is that Spartan development has taken a boost and things are really going in the way that you would like to. -
@dimitrios-kanellopoulos I just want to say thank you for such information. It really means a lot
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@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Rejoice again!
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Just months waiting for these kind of feedback. Aleluya!!!
thanks!
@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:
@luís-pinto said in Suunto 3 Fitness Thoughts:
@brad_olwin But at 25th April Suunto app will be official launched just for SF3, without support for Ambit and Spartan? I did not understand.
Yes let me make this crystal clear.
We have an issue with the suunto app at this moment.
As you all understand it’s far from ready for the Spartans but it’s almost ready for the s3f and should be.
However the app needs to hit the stores for the s3f users on release.
We thought about not allowing app store (and playstore) users that install the app not to be able to pair their Spartans. But that is not the best decision. So it’s not the way.
So:
The app will hit the store at the s3f release. Users with Spartans will be promoted and know that if they pair their Spartan the functionality for the Spartans will not be ok and they will be also testsing a beta feature of the app. So Spartan sync with the app from the stores will be a beta feature.
At the same time , we will continue with here and the beta releases until we get this right. And believe me from what I have seen it’s going to be awesome in some months.
All your requests , chats , fears, bugs, issues and thoughts are taken 100% into consideration. We are cooking this experience for you. The people in this forum. You are driving the requests and helping this. Suunto is so happy about this beta, and it’s putting all the effort now on this. S3f is released, 2 more weeks for the s3f app fixes and then boom. Suunto is full on us and the Spartans. Android will get a speed up as well.
I hope this helps and good morning my friends. I love to see you here. All of you. Grumpy or not. You all have added and add continuously great value !!! Keep it up.
