Firstbeat ATHLETE, Suunto Ambit 1, sml (suunto XML) to FIT

christophe martens

Hello,

A year ago I started using Firstbeat ATHLETE to help me with my trainings.
The Training Coach module gives me a 1 month training plan, based on the trainings that were uploaded.

For the upload I have the choice

From device: Suunto t6, Suunto Smart/Memory belt or polar devices.
Movescount.com
Load from file sdf/hrm/rrm/bms/dat/csv/ste/txt/fbe/fit

I made the decision to NOT go for Polar but made the choice to purchase the Ambit 1. This way I could upload my trainings into Firstbeat ATHLETE via the Movescount.com option.

As Movescount.com will disappear in the future, I will need to use the manual ‘Load from file’ option and upload my training data containing the heart rate R-R interval data.
I think only the FIT file format contains these.

Can I assume that the Moveslink application, which unload the data from my Ambit first (to sml file) and later on load it to movescount.com, will still be available in the future? (The unload data part)

If so, would it be possible to have a tool available to convert the unloaded .SML file data from my Ambit to .FIT format (containing the R-R data)?

A nice to have would be a way to still manage your

Body Metrics
Sport Modes

Thanks in advance to take the request in consideration.

margusl

@christophe-martens said in Firstbeat ATHLETE, Suunto Ambit 1, sml (suunto XML) to FIT:

Load from file sdf/hrm/rrm/bms/dat/csv/ste/txt/fbe/fit

It’s not meant as a solution by any means, just something for you to try - at the end of SML files there’s R-R data you are after:

Take values from <Data> and save those to text file, test with different file extensions (hrm/rrm/txt) and see if Atlhete is able to import that data correctly.

@christophe-martens if you have access to an android device you can try an App called ‘Ambit Connect’ this works
with Ambit1/2/3 and connects to your watch via the original Suunto crocodile cable, on the other end (phone side) you need an adapter from USB-A to micro USB or UBS-C (whatever your phone has as a dataport) there are widely available, within the app you can then choose download all moves or only new ones (not synchronized) and it produces GPX and FIT files, I know it’s not as convenient as moveslink2 -> movescount.com -> Firstbeat
but probably worth to try in case Suunto push this non-support plans through next year and you are left out

let us know here how this works for other users as well if you have chance to try

christophe martens

@Tobias-F
Hello,

Thank you for helping to find a solution.
I’m am a iphone/ipad user, and it looks like Ambit Connect is only on android.
So not really a solution for my problem, or I need to purchase a new phone and a cable adapter.

christophe martens

@margusl
Thank you for helping to find a solution.

I will have a try, but I fear only the R-R data will not be enough.

Just to confirm if a FIT file would work, I did in movescount.com for a move :
Tools -> Export as FIT.
And in Firstbeat ATHLETE : Load from file -> FIT
And this gives the same result as choosing Movescount.com to import the data.
So there already exist some code that transforms SML to FIT.

Your HRM solution looks like a little more complicated, it needs a lot more data than only the R-R part. (see https://www.rungps.net/forums/thread/1951-0/Heart-rate-integration-in-track-(with-R-R-data) )
For the RRM or TXT, I did not find what needs to be included.

@christophe-martens said in Firstbeat ATHLETE, Suunto Ambit 1, sml (suunto XML) to FIT:

iphone/ipad user

I see, sorry for this, that’s the only solution I could think of beside @margusl suggestion above to get it from the SML file as raw data

margusl

@christophe-martens said in Firstbeat ATHLETE, Suunto Ambit 1, sml (suunto XML) to FIT:

For the RRM or TXT, I did not find what needs to be included.

gHRV, for example, is happy with txt file that has all the R-R values on a single line, just like they appear in SML, leading tabs and <Data></Data> tags removed. But if Firstbeat provides support for more data than just R-R (route, pace/speed, altitude), then settling with just R-R is quite a step back. Though you might find www.goldencheetah.org interesting, it has direct SML import.

christophe martens

@margusl
I tested www.goldencheetah.org . SML import no problem but it does not export in FIT.

I see that most Garmin running watches now also store R-R and they have a website Garminconnect storing your runs. From their website you can export to FIT.
I even think on their watches the running data is stored in FIT format.

When Movescount.com stops to exist and no solution is presented by Suunto, I will change then to Garmin.

All the best!