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A Former User last edited by
@Zdeněk-Hruška because movescount does this today pretty well and with ease to save to any of your registered watches with one click?
witchcraft last edited by
Very disappointed my Ambit is seemingly going to be bricked next year, it was my 50th birthday present and I use it every day. Frankly very annoyed and likely to buy a Garmin to replace it
@Shaun-Hubbard Hi I am trying to help here and as a Navigator and mountain guide there are tons of services that do better than MC routing for free. Search a bit this forum and you will find plenty of info. IF not I can guide you and show you some cool things.
One thing I heard mentioned a couple of times here, and perhaps it helps:
Movescount works, why stop it?
Well if we would go about 2 years ago there were tons of complaints about MC web, however, it’s going away and I guess to do such a decision, though hard, will help Suunto.
That said someone could say regarding my above paragraph:
Who cares about Suunto, I bought my watch as a consumer with X,Y and now X is going away and that is not nice.
I don’t think anyone at Suunto took this decision easily and Suunto is not a company that cares for the $$, only. There are people that consist that company passionate about their Sports and they are affected as well. There are people at Suunto with A2 and all the rest of the devices that are mentioned here.
Sean Hermany last edited by
@runningispain This is absolute garbage. They need to at minimum offer a downloadable tool to extract the GPX files from your device and do with the what you want, if not open source such a tool. This is basically planned obsolescence. I wish I could travel back in time and tell myself not to have bought a Suunto on the grounds that you’re completely locked in to their service to get data off of the device you own, but what’s done is done.
AFAIK, this kind of thing is now illegal in France, maybe once they closedown Movescount and tell you you need to buy a new bluetooth enabled watch, someone from there will sue them.
@Sean-Hermany hey I am in France it’s not illegal.
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Drjno last edited by
Moving forward is definitely for good, but - there is “but”, as always - and it is…
Does the shutting down Movescount mean, that from mid-2020 I can throw my Ambit 2 Sapphire and my wife’s Ambit 2S out of the window? Watches still are insanely capable.
What comes to my mind is an application to download recordings as .fit files to computer (here you have the codebase) and no need to keep the cloud service. At least this!!
Sure, business needs and so on, but paying for two new watches out of the blue over €500 does not feel like a good idea. One of your heaviest competitors are allowing getting workouts simply by connecting watch to computer and having access to file system, where all .fit files are to be found…
P.s.: sorry for reply, meant to entire thread but mis-clicked the button.
Jordi Galobart Konieczka last edited by
@witchcraft in my case 40th birthday present …
Totally agree with you
ianishomer last edited by
We wont shoot the messenger, but we need clarification on what Suunto intends to do with the Ambit2 and ambit users after the turn off of Movescount.
How will we load new moves etc.
If your intention is to just disregard these users and hope they upgrade from a perfectly functional watch to a new over priced model, it may be worth mentioning to Mikko Moilanen, that we wont go easily and most of us will not upgrade if we are treated this way!
more news will come out soon enough. Did you btw mean Tommi?
@ColdBeer I just asked for some reason he doesn’t need to explain me anything of course. I don’t know whether it’s because he doesn’t know how to do it or it’s complicated or whatever other reason he could have.
But Movescount is not decommissioned yet and there is this huge discussion full of anger and demands. And why? Can you import route to watch using Movescount? Yes. Can you do the same with SA? Yes.
I mean I am not saying that there are no issues with how is Suunto progressing with their new SA platform. And I am not saying I like everything they do right now. But it seems to me that everybody complains about things which are not even real issues at this moment.
Jennifer Gothilander last edited by
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Oh my god. I was ok with Suunto app as an app but shutting Movescount down and monitoring all activities done (ever) is best done on a website. It’s impossible to get a proper overview and analysis over time in an app, unless you make an app for the desktop but then I will be “locked” to my own computer and can’t access it anywhere. IF (and I really hope not) you close Movescount, you have to (!!!) make it easy to transfer ALL old training data to some other place (like Strava) with basically one click. I moved my Garmin files to Movescount one by one when I bought a Suunto. And that was only a year or two of files. Still took quite some time. Moving all my old data from Movescount so somewhere else again, after… 8 years?! No way! And I’d be really sad to just drop that in the bin. I like statistics.
@Jennifer-Gothilander There are several solutions out there, both mobile and browser based, that sync workout data from one platform to the other. PhoneGap on iOS, SyncMyTracks on Android, and Tapiriik via web. It’s 2019. Please don’t move your data file by file. As per Movescount to Suunto transition, the data should flow automatically.
I wouldn’t be surprised if at the end, after all the fireworks here, a one time route sync happened too.
@Jennifer-Gothilander Noted thanks and understood well.
Jennifer Gothilander last edited by
@NickK I don’t have them on my phone, I guess. I mean my Movescount data from like 2012. That’s on the website, but probably not in my app. And the web program didn’t go with Movescount. And even if, I’d have to sort all duplicates that’s already in Strava?
And I like to use a website to analyze year by year. I just kept Strava for cycling. But I guess that time is over…
cosmecosta last edited by
I think that this post is getting quite hot. Some are very upset but as @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos says this is the first communication, and I would think that Suunto will try to find the best solution to everybody. Suunto surely knows that these watches without connection is nothing.
If you read my posts you will see clearly which is my opinion on the Suunto App and how should evolve, but I think, as a lot of us, that MC had an end date and we should propose solutions and make clear what we expect instead of being only angry. Besides of posting here we can also send emails to Suunto support explaining what we expect and want.
IMO is good that Suunto has announced this so early, now we can push and let know or requests.
ColdBeer last edited by ColdBeer
@Jennifer-Gothilander Just to studying other points of view (not preventing -still- a full migration) I configured today my SyncMyTracks registered app on my Android phone:
I think that this post is getting quite hot.
Maybe at this time the guys at Suunto are thinking that pressing the “nuke” button was bold… LOL
Let’s see how this evolves.
@jsuarez The best part is they haven’t pressed anything. Just raised the possibility… Oh, the joy of internets! Some 15-20 years ago this would have gone smoothly and quietly. Not a cricket cry! If only Suunto were in time machine business…
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Third party tools for route editing don’t support adding waypoints on routes or editing POIs. Is that something Suunto plans to quietly discontinue with Movescount?
@silentvoyager I think its in the plans waypoint support in routes. This information exists on GPX files afaik.
@Zdeněk-Hruška As an Ambit2 user, this will be impossible after the change, because the routes have to be transferred using the web interface.
Shrek3k last edited by
The cancelation of the service is exactly what I feared and predicted. Of course I try to stay optimistic that Suunto is going to offer a service at least similar, better at least identical in the important services, better even if improved compared to the current MC.
But - in a way this is what quite a number of members was asking for: a road map or you might even call it a vision. KUDOS!
Nevertheless, as we have all seen, that one year (SA) is a very short time for major improvements concerning the implementation of really new services and features (but not to much time to fix issues/bugs and implement some features mostly by copying them), this seems to be quite a challenge.
Although being a little sceptical, I am most certainly happy to be part and member of this developement (probably a critiquing member, most certainly not a critical )